To everyone that hates relic/mythic weapons, I like to know why

[Rambus]

yes, it means not equal. i don't see at all how whether or not relics and mythics are the best weapons affects the casual player.

so the casual player won't have the BEST weapon in the game. why do they care, if they're a casual player?

i like empyreans. but i certainly won't be sad if they are still powerful, but not the best weapons. why? they didn't actually take that much effort. to me, ideally relics and mythics will be sidegrades or close (for damage; for other jobs they can be very different), and empyreans will be a bit behind.

That's how it should be in my eyes, but a lot of people seem to disagree for some unknown reason.

Can someone answer this please? All the threads I seen it seems people that show anti relic/ mythic ingore this point.

How does having a hard to get weapon/ lot of time getting a weapon effect you?
Why can't there be weapons that do a bit more performace that take way longer to get then alts like emp weapons?

FFXI had other concepts like that like how yiget body was an alt to a rare brd jse body, the yiget body was not the best but it had an effect liek the jse did.

same how SE gave out new gear that was alts to heca gear and so on.

or are people anti relic/mythic doing so just to "troll"? i would really like to understand

Also please add relics for the newer jobs.

* can we please have civil convo, not trolls/hate posts? I do not mind disagreement posts you have every right to but please have a reasonable reason.

[Purpleeyes]

Because DNC doesn't have a relic /cry

[TearValerin]

The problem is, relic owners spend months making their weapon, only to be second best by weapons that take no time to get. Empyrean weapons can be made in a few days, relics can be made in a few months on good runs. That is entirely not fair. Very few relics can compete with empyreans, and it isn't cool that someone can be better than another person over night who worked for months for his weapon.

[Henihhi]

I believe they are just trolling. You bring up good examples how there were almost always items released for the "casual" player but how the harder to obtain items were slightly better for those that devoted more time and effort.

[Rambus]

Because DNC doesn't have a relic /cry

oh yeah, SE can there be relic type weapon for the new jobs?

[TearValerin]

oh yeah, SE can there be relic type weapon for the new jobs?

There already is, Twashtar, and Terpischore.

[Rambus]

There already is, Twashtar, and Terpischore.

I think the new jobs could have relic type weapons to strive for, i agree with that poster i changed the thread just for them XD

oh you cant change the main title, oh well ><

I believe they are just trolling. You bring up good examples how there were almost always items released for the "casual" player but how the harder to obtain items were slightly better for those that devoted more time and effort.

yeah I tried listing gear like that too

[RichardNixon]

The real problem is weapons like the relic bow and gun being way too good compared to every other weapon in the game

the bow and gun really need nerfing

[Snaplin]

My Relic club needs more mage stats!

[Rambus]

The real problem is weapons like the relic bow and gun being way too good compared to every other weapon in the game

the bow and gun really need nerfing

does that only applay outside abyssea? what about inside where the emp bow and gun is huge?

range attack formula are bad when you really get buffed from the people I talked to.

I do not mind such statments but can I request giving data on why?

My Relic club needs more mage stats!

Oh i agree with you, same with mythic staff (SCH) mythic staff (blm) mythic sword (rdm)
emp staff, and relic staff