New Job: Dark Knight

[Sama]

DRK needs a new JA call 'Hit the Mob' and 'Hit Faster'...

[Kits]

Sad.. really seems like abyssea messed a lot of things up. Its like changing physics. Things are doing what theyre not meant to do

[Sparthos]

Except post-Abyssea will fix the problem.

DRK is currently in the same situation as SAM, BRD, COR etc. The jobs have seen diminished value due to the circumstances inside Abyssea. Outside Abyssea, Emp DRKs and Relic DRKs will be just fine barring any major gamechangers we're currently unaware of.

The value of Cata has indeed dropped since Haste has become trivial but the weapon is still solid. The point of whining about Abyssea when the content has ended is silly. Save whatever bitching for the future content where it counts.

[Khajit]

My brd outdamages entire alliances while buffing people with near constant SV marches so whachu talkin bout willis?

[Kits]

whats cata ._. ...

[Harukusan]

You guys make it sound like DRK has never been the underdog as a front line DD before. Situationally DRK was an amazing job. Abyssea is just another "situation." Anyone who has played longer than a year should know this by now: Abyssea isn't going to last forever, nothing released in the past is at it's peak of popularity now, and many jobs that are considered end-all today will be set back to neutrality. Abyssea does not define a job, the person who controls it does. Giving DRK the disadvantage beside other jobs performance-wise didn't stop most of us from playing it, we found ways to make it stronger and more competitive. Take that into consideration before you start posting any more of your crybaby emo rants. You're giving DRK a bad image (as if it hasn't already gotten one).

[TearValerin]

Except post-Abyssea will fix the problem.

DRK is currently in the same situation as SAM, BRD, COR etc. The jobs have seen diminished value due to the circumstances inside Abyssea. Outside Abyssea, Emp DRKs and Relic DRKs will be just fine barring any major gamechangers we're currently unaware of.

The value of Cata has indeed dropped since Haste has become trivial but the weapon is still solid. The point of whining about Abyssea when the content has ended is silly. Save whatever bitching for the future content where it counts.

Ending its addons doesn't mean the game is abandoning the content, Abyssea is obviously still going to play a major role in our gear/leveling if they're till making changes and taking ideas for it. Especially with the acquisition of seals. From new content standpoint, I don't think drk can actively recover unless it gets some kind of buff to make it come out of this wonky state. Sure Torcleaver, Quietus, etc are decent on holding their own, but what about those casual drk who don't have final weapons? I think DRK needs some major WSC mod changes on it's WS to make it a more viable DD again, and be given some other beneficial enfeebles... otherwise it'll be sent to obscurity.

It's kind of strange how the 2 best DDs years back have now become backburners, and the 2 loljobs suddenly became beastly. Drg and war are the new sam, pup no longer a laughing stock, outdamages both sam and drk... Poor drk.

[Sparthos]

My brd outdamages entire alliances while buffing people with near constant SV marches so whachu talkin bout willis?

Frankly BRD is a luxury in Abyssea. The age of BRD making this revolutionary difference ended with Atmas, priority on anti-zerg tactics and overall ease of mobs.

It's ability to yellow !! mobs is rendered null/void when someone can sub and have all the triggers. Monsters also tend to range from being able to be thren'd with a subjob to immune, making skill irrelevant. The marches are undercut when you need triggers on mobs and are trying to slow kills not speed them up and thus your DD ability on BRD is just for fun or to show off in EXP. Nothing like putting "real" DD on their ass with Evisceration from a support job.

Pre-Abyssea no one would deny a BRD for another because it was an indispensable job that was a pocket gamechanger. The age of Abyssea has made the job a luxury as your Atmas are more than enough to get the job done.

@TearVelerin

It really doesn't matter as the game is currently incomplete. It'd like me complaining that BLU sucks under level 60. We haven't reached the cap yet @99 so DRK has plenty of room to evolve. The changes to Walk of Echoes will no doubt make Quietus/Torcleaver easier to obtain and DRK will return to the status it enjoyed when people move out of Abyssea and onto whatever content spans 90-99.

Barring a huge gamechanger, DRK should return to the dogpile of DD after Abyssea somewhere in the middle. It'll never probably approach the level of great WAR but the job was designed as a hybrid and so it'll remain as such. I know alot of DRKs find the magical side as useless since it eats up DD time but its the only way to make DRK different from smashy smash WAR.

tl;dr: DRK will be glad that Abyssea is over so long as the new content doesn't emphasize spamming Atmas or crits. Cata will be useful again for self heals when the era of perma capped MP ends as well.

[Khajit]

whats cata ._. ...

Catastrophe aka drk's relic ws that used to be amazing. The self cure was a nice bonus and the haste aftermath was wonderful until there was so much haste about that the haste equip cap kept on being slammed into no matter how hard a drk would try if they had good gear. The haste aftermath really needs to be put into it's own haste category at this point ingame.

[rog]

It's been explained already but Rampage being their best weaponskill not only makes their main weapons useless but also highlights the primary failing of the class.

Well yeah, but it's still not entirely true to say they don't have any crit ws.