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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    No, I read it. But I don't believe you. Could you perhaps source testing that can confirm that "Damage taken +10%" actually means that I will take 10% more damage?
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Damage

    Then scroll down to equipment list. Remember this is Damage Taken +% and not Physical Damage Taken -%

    Also read comments others made here:

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item/17113/owleyes

    Gear pieces that reduce damage would have listed it as "Physical Damage Taken -%" oppose to Damage Taken +%. Evidence can be seen in Colonization Reives when Yellow Message pops up "Damage Taken" where people receive an extra bonus of Bayld for tanking.

    To further support my statement check out the Black Mage Valkyrie set.

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie's_Coat_Set

    This is the HQ set of Shadow Coat Set. The Shadow Coat Set is a mage cloth set providing significant bonuses to Magic Accuracy and enmity reduction. It also provides smaller bonuses to MP, Magic Attack Bonus, and various caster stats. As a drawback, extra damage is taken while this set is equipped, in even greater quantity than the NQ version. The set is attainable through abjurations obtained from Einherjar.

    Although some pieces state Physical Damage Taken +% Valkyrie Trews has Damage Taken +5%.

    Valkyrie's trews
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    DEF: 29
    "Magic Atk. Bonus" +5
    Magic Accuracy +5 Enmity -3
    Damage taken +5%
    Lv. 75 WHM / BLM / RDM / BRD / SMN

    Hope this answers your question.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-07-2013 at 10:40 PM.

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    l'm sorry but those sources do not cite any actual tests? How am I to believe a claim such as d Damage taken +10%" will cause me to actually take additional damage without a rigorous and conclusive test? I am sorry but you are going to have to produce some data
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    Last edited by Asymptotic; 07-07-2013 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    l'm sorry but those sources do not cite any actual tests?
    I'm sorry I cannot find any info on testing. However the info I left for you should be enough to tell the difference between taking damage and reducing damage. If this was a reduce damage piece I'm sure it would have been listed in several players gear set options for -PDT. If Genbu Shield was listed, I'm sure others would have included Owleyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    How am I to believe a claim such as d Damage taken +10%" will cause me to actually take additional damage without a rigorous and conclusive test?
    Because its +% and not -%. That's the best answer I can give you. Sorry.
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    Heh... That just made my morning. Good times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Heh... That just made my morning. Good times.
    Lol... Goodmorning
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    Anybody speak / read Japanese? Matsui made a few related posts over on the JP threads which prompted quite a few angry responses judging by the number of deleted posts from players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    No, I read it. But I don't believe you. Could you perhaps source testing that can confirm that "Damage taken +10%" actually means that I will take 10% more damage?
    1) Equip Owleyes with no other damage taken% or Phys damage taken% gear on.
    2) Solo a cactuar.
    3) wait for 1000 needles.
    4) observe damage taken.
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    I am having trouble believing that this is still going, so instead please enjoy my summary of Adoulin up to this point?

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