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    Player Nebo's Avatar
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    Steal/Despoil timers

    What you wrote:

    The job abilities Steal and Despoil will be adjusted to not share reactivation timers.
    What it should have read:

    The job ability Steal will be separated from Aurasteal. Aurasteal will become its own job ability and its recast timer lowered to 1 Minute
    These are two of the most useless abilities in the entire game. No one cares about steal. No one cares about despoil.

    Separating the recast timers for these two abilities does nothing.

    How about this? Just delete Steal and Despoil from the game and leave Aurasteal.
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    Last edited by Nebo; 06-04-2013 at 09:04 AM.

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    Oh, but see, they've made it clear that if Aura Steal was split off, it would be over-powered.

    Which begs the question, what can we currently Aura Steal that has them so panicked...
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    Steal and Despoil have no use as shared or separate JA`s since theres nothing worth stealing off mobs anyway. I agree with OP, Aura Steal would serve a better purpose as it's own ability since it's actually useful. I would also like to know why you consider Aura Steal over-powered as its own JA, an explanation would help us to understand your line of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calatilla View Post
    Steal and Despoil have no use as shared or separate JA`s since there's nothing worth stealing off mobs anyway. I agree with OP, Aura Steal would serve a better purpose as it's own ability since it's actually useful. I would also like to know why you consider Aura Steal over-powered as its own JA, an explanation would help us to understand your line of thought.
    It's mostly because they think aurasteal is a really cool ability, but they don't understand how poorly they implemented it into the game and how useless stealing monster enhancements is 99.99% of the time...if ever by chance you run into a monster has enhancements you can steal. 99% of monsters do not.

    And most of that 1% that do...you just can't steal them because THAT would be too powerful.

    lol

    And even some of the ones you CAN steal and make use of....say Cocoon from a crawler...wears off in ~5 seconds. Because THAT would be too powerful for a THF to have for any kind of reasonable duration.

    There are so many things that Aurasteal CAN"T do because it's "Overpowered" that the ability itself....is just terrible. AND it's on a 5 minute recast timer, AND its mashed together with steal which takes effect first if a monster has a steal pool (Hello to you Ice Spikes and Skeletons) Which ALSO means you can't use it if your inventory is full.

    The real reason that they think its so overpowered is because the job lead for THF doesn't understand very much about THF (clearly), or the extremely limited opportunities to make any kind of use for aurasteal, or even the way FFXI is played. No one makes SATA lines, no one uses weapon skills once every minute etc.

    They are just out of touch with the game. It's that simple.
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    Last edited by Nebo; 06-03-2013 at 11:40 AM.

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    I'd appreciate if they added Steal/Despoil pools to new enemies now too
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    Hopefully the useful items required for quests in SoA are added to the pools of steal/despoil.
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    Player Nebo's Avatar
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    Camate, are you able to provide us some additional information about the development team's plans for THF?

    If not, can you acknowledge whether or not they even have any plans to update THF?

    I know we've asked for these details many times in the past ever since they posted that bit about making updates to THF so that it will really "Shine" but it has been a very long time and we've heard nothing about what that might be.

    And we get updates like this that don't make any sense. Can you see this from our side?

    First they say that their job vision for Thief is a stealthy pickpocket...

    Then they said they don't want us to be stealing valuable items...so why give THF a redundant update to steal and despoil?

    Is this because the dev team has plans to adjust these abilities so that they actually do something worthwhile and relevant to the game? Because currently, they don't. Surely the devs must know this.....right?
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    Seriously, there's enough good reasons for THF to be around IF you fix stuff like this.

    We can stab something in the back for massive damage once a minute, yet the ability that MIGHT let me yoink a mushroom off something is a 5-minute cooldown? Wat? Heck, let us occasionally yoink a temp item like if the mob was holding a blue chest if nothing else is available from the mob as a Steal/Despoil target.

    Also, it'd be nice if we actually got to understanding what helped Steal/Despoil's accuracy. Y'know, for science.
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    Maybe the only reason they wish to separate the timers is for one of the new NM's will be weaker from using steal/despoil. We never know what they are thinking. I only hope that some day they will listen to our posts and implement one of our ideas.
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    Last edited by Mohr; 06-14-2013 at 05:48 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    Seriously, there's enough good reasons for THF to be around.
    Just out of sheer, morbid curiosity....what might you think those reasons are?
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