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    Courier's Coalition Assignments - Suggestion for Easing bivouac supply runs

    Allow us (via the same courier's coalition upgrade that adds delivery npcs) to accept a bivouac supply quest from a frontier station.

    Alternatively, if the quest cannot be accepted from an alternate location, after accepting the imprimatur quest from the coalition, make players pick up the supplies key item from the frontier station in the appropriate zone, rather than accepting the ki from the coalition itself. This would allow players to teleport to the zone first, and then make their delivery.

    This would ease the travel time to reach far off bivouacs on foot. Making the delivery within the zone is difficult enough with the hazards of reives etc, making the trip across multiple zones is simply unreasonable, and will only get worse as more zones are added farther and farther from Adoulin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    Allow us (via the same courier's coalition upgrade that adds delivery npcs) to accept a bivouac supply quest from a frontier station.

    Alternatively, if the quest cannot be accepted from an alternate location, after accepting the imprimatur quest from the coalition, make players pick up the supplies key item from the frontier station in the appropriate zone, rather than accepting the ki from the coalition itself. This would allow players to teleport to the zone first, and then make their delivery.

    This would ease the travel time to reach far off bivouacs on foot. Making the delivery within the zone is difficult enough with the hazards of reives etc, making the trip across multiple zones is simply unreasonable, and will only get worse as more zones are added farther and farther from Adoulin.
    Though I understand their logic for making us get the KI from town like with the Outpost runs, it is a royal pain in the arse to complete these things without being able to use the waypoints to get to the zones. It wasn't so bad with Outposts because we could at least tele most the way there, then get a chicken to run the rest of the way. SoA has no such mechanics in place with the way these are set up.

    How about the compromise of the the OP's second idea? If they don't want to remove the whole waypoint breaking the KI thing, but still want us to start in town...let us sign up/end the quest in town, but require us to warp to the Frontier station to get our package. From that point on, if we use a waypoint the KI breaks.

    This could very easily be balanced, and not break the lore of SoA. In order to expand the bivouacs, we would still have to make sure the Frontier station stays intact and all that. No frontier station, no bivuoacs 1-5 because we wouldn't have a drop point for picking up their supplies. This fits perfectly with the lore of SoA. We would have to maintain lines to/from the Frontier stations (by doing other assignments, they stay safe and supplied) and the coalition would be able to get the bulk deliveries to the forntier stations on their own. We would just be taking over for the more dangerous part of the mission by picking them up at the protected frontier station and then navigating the dangerous wilds to get to the outlying encampments.
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    I can't help but feel like if they went through with either of the above changes, it would result in a large reward cut to balance things out. The frontline support and supply delivery assignments have the highest and second highest rewards respectively, and by a significant amount too, and it's because of difficulty to complete.

    Make no mistake, they won't ease up the conditions without a penalty, we've all played this game and read these forums enough to know that. And honestly, considering the reward, the run really isn't that bad. Especially if you're doing multi tag runs, or really keeping up with your nightly assignments. If you were letting them stack up, and doing 15 single tag runs in a single night, then, well, yes. That would suck. A lot.

    If for some reason they do opt to turn these assignments easy while still offering a huge reward, I won't complain, but I'm not holding my breath. I support whatever gives me more bayld.
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    I've already ranked up to Contributor in the Courier Coalition doing 2 Morimar runs a day. I would have continued doing more, but I (and I'm sure many people) would like to rank up in all the coalitions. Unless SE plans to have everybody do nothing but Courier assignments, something needs to be done. The reward for running supplies to a busted Bivouac should be high enough to discourage people from just running to Biv 1 in Ceizak. The Bivouac adjustment is a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    Allow us (via the same courier's coalition upgrade that adds delivery npcs) to accept a bivouac supply quest from a frontier station.

    Alternatively, if the quest cannot be accepted from an alternate location, after accepting the imprimatur quest from the coalition, make players pick up the supplies key item from the frontier station in the appropriate zone, rather than accepting the ki from the coalition itself. This would allow players to teleport to the zone first, and then make their delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    Allow us (via the same courier's coalition upgrade that adds delivery npcs) to accept a bivouac supply quest from a frontier station.

    Alternatively, if the quest cannot be accepted from an alternate location, after accepting the imprimatur quest from the coalition, make players pick up the supplies key item from the frontier station in the appropriate zone, rather than accepting the ki from the coalition itself. This would allow players to teleport to the zone first, and then make their delivery.

    This would ease the travel time to reach far off bivouacs on foot. Making the delivery within the zone is difficult enough with the hazards of reives etc, making the trip across multiple zones is simply unreasonable, and will only get worse as more zones are added farther and farther from Adoulin.
    This could actually solve two issues at once, if the "Provide:" assignment could support the Frontier Station with the supplies needed for the "Support:" assignments. It would allow more players to be able to complete the assignments for initial clears, in any case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsx View Post
    Allow us (via the same courier's coalition upgrade that adds delivery npcs) to accept a bivouac supply quest from a frontier station.

    Alternatively, if the quest cannot be accepted from an alternate location, after accepting the imprimatur quest from the coalition, make players pick up the supplies key item from the frontier station in the appropriate zone, rather than accepting the ki from the coalition itself. This would allow players to teleport to the zone first, and then make their delivery.

    This would ease the travel time to reach far off bivouacs on foot. Making the delivery within the zone is difficult enough with the hazards of reives etc, making the trip across multiple zones is simply unreasonable, and will only get worse as more zones are added farther and farther from Adoulin.
    The only zone where reives are a problem for delivery is Morimar, and that is likely solved by more survival skills similar to Watercrafting in the Juli update. Ceizak reives are down often enough for deliveries to take place, and by extension Yahse as well. Foret and Morimar can be reached without having to clear any reives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    The only zone where reives are a problem for delivery is Morimar, and that is likely solved by more survival skills similar to Watercrafting in the Juli update. Ceizak reives are down often enough for deliveries to take place, and by extension Yahse as well. Foret and Morimar can be reached without having to clear any reives.
    It's still far too much of a pain to complete these quests consistently, all you have to do is look at the number of camps available for warping to. On my server, there is only one camp available per zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twille View Post
    It's still far too much of a pain to complete these quests consistently, all you have to do is look at the number of camps available for warping to. On my server, there is only one camp available per zone.
    On Bismarck, Foret is often better served (4/4) then Ceizak (1/3), probably because all outposts are accessible and about the same in travel time.
    The problem though, lies with the lack of interest in maintaining outposts. Yeah, we want easy travel, but noone is going to deliver supplies if they are Contributor rank in Couriers' Coalition and not capped yet in other coalitions. 6k xp and bayld is nice, but it's not plasm, you know?
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