Thoughts on Runefencer

[Zeargi]

Well we were talking about with a piece of Emp gear that RUN would get that extra Rune, so it makes sense that naturally is not a factor.

OK, fine... I was unaware of the super harp that gives a 4th song. I only remember hearing that it gave an addition song as it was. But even still, a 3rd and 4th song can be done with an additional BRD as well or having an enemy BRD cast a few more on you.

[Babekeke]

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

440 x 1.5 x 4 = 2640 before MAB or MB. Now we're talking.

I think 58 is the most MAB we've found without gimping yourself with weapon or grip, giving 4171 without magic Bursting.

[Zeargi]

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

440 x 1.5 x 4 = 2640 before MAB or MB. Now we're talking.

I think 58 is the most MAB we've found without gimping yourself with weapon or grip, giving 4171 without magic Bursting.

But my questions is how much do the runes effect the JAs? Can you absorb 3 different elements with Liement as it is, because adding a 4th; opens things up for a whole lot of mitigation, no?

[Babekeke]

But my questions is how much do the runes effect the JAs? Can you absorb 3 different elements with Liement as it is, because adding a 4th; opens things up for a whole lot of mitigation, no?

no, you absorb the damage of only the spell with the most runes of that element, or the most recently done rune if all runes are different. 4 Runes will simply mean you can absorb 145% of the damage that the spell will have done. And for Vallation and Valiance, you can reach 60% MDT that is multiplicative with gear/shell MDT for a cap of 80%, same as Aegis PLD.

[Kristal]

To me a 4th rune is a natural progression: Enspell damage seems to add less damage per rune, so that wouldn't increase significantly, whereas it would add a very nice boost to lunge, assuming it followed the same formula -

Don't call it Enspell... it reminds me of the rage I felt when RDM/RUN Enspell II gets overwritten by rune additional damage.. despite being a stronger and higher level effect that only affects the 1st hit..