Enmity System Explanation and Planned Adjustments

[saevel]

Won't mean anything. Enmity is determined by both CE and VE being combined. VE is easy to cap, you can assume that all melee's will be at VE cap within a min or two. It's CE that really determines who has hate and being 1000+ CE behind means that no amount of Provoke will get hate on you. Anyone that wants to "tank" needs a solid source of constant CE, which as of now is only damage.

[Tohihroyu]

The same goes to SMN, most mob in SoA will die within 3-4 BP Rage at most, but everytime you use BP Rage, mob will come after you guaranteed, even if you are doing entirely nothing but using BP Rage x 3-4 the entire fight. These recent adjustment should be reverted back, put in the test server and properly tested. We are not paying to play a beta version of SoA. And they do have test server to make sure this kind of shenanigans won't happen again.

Yes, please! I'm sick and tired of having to run near a mob just to use sic, ready or a bp just to make sure the moves goes off without "The [monster] is too far away." Hell you even get on the hate list for using items (like food) like I could be a decent enough distance away use a red curry bun or whatever food and boom the mob turns and goes after me. I like how "Old school" beastmaster solo got brought back...but not this. Also do something about ep monsters hitting like trucks (did Magic attack & acc from mobs get turned up 10x stronger?), dynamis xarc kindred rangers & ninjas SPAMMING Hecatomb Wave every 3-5 seconds at 200+ damage a hit, is this some sort of revenge against players who don't go beastmaster to Dynamis?

As they always say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (though in this case its just...breaking it even more)

Forget Provoke...if you want hate eat a pizza >_>

[Luvbunny]

Forget Provoke...if you want hate eat a pizza >_>

Uhm you get hate from doing nothing as Summoner, lol. Just do send pet, and the mob will come back to get you, even if you just stand there idle. Broken is putting it mildly. They really need to take this adjustment back to the drawing board, and put them in the test server for 6 months for thorough testing. We are not PAYING to be a beta tester for the game.

[Camate]

Greetings!

As a follow-up to my previous post, we will be making adjustments to job abilities and spells that have a fixed amount of enmity in the upcoming version update.

A majority of spells and abilities will have their enmity reduced by nearly half the current value.

On the other hand, Reprisal and Foil will have their enmity boosted.

Below is the list of abilities and spells that will have their enmity values reduced:

• Job Abilities
  Benediction / Shadowbind / Barrage / Sharpshot / Heel / Leave / Sic / Stay / Reward / Deactivate
  
  
• White Magic
  Raise / Raise II / Raise III / Arise / Poisona / Paralyna / Blindna / Silena / Stona / Viruna / Cursna / Blink / Stoneskin / Aquaveil / Slow (I & II) / Haste / Paralyze (I & II) / Silence / Barfire / Barblizzard / Baraero/ Barstone / Barthunder / Barwater / Barsleep / Barpoison / Barparalyze / Barsilence / Barblind / Barbreak / Barvirus / Sacrifice / Esuna / Auspice / Repose / Erase / Addle / Temper / Embrava / Enfire (I & II) / Enblizzard (I & II) / Enthunder (I & II) / Enwater (I & II) / Enaero (I & II) / Enstone (I & II) / Enlight / Phalanx (I & II) / Regen (I~V) / Refresh (I & II) / Sandstorm / Rainstorm / Windstorm / Firestorm / Hailstorm / Thunderstorm / Aurorastorm / Voidstorm / Animus Augeo / Animus Minuo / Adloquium
  
  
• Black Magic
  Poison (I & II) / Poisonga / Bio (I~III) / Burn / Frost / Choke / Rasp / Shock / Drown / Retrace / Blaze Spikes / Ice Spikes / Shock Spikes / Sleep (I & II) / Blind (I & II) / Break / Breakga / Bind / Dispel / Absorb-MND / Absorb-CHR / Absorb-VIT / Absorb-AGI / Absorb-INT / Absorb-DEX / Absorb-STR / Absorb-ACC / Absorb-Attri / Endark / Klimaform
  
  
• Summoning Magic
  Carbuncle / Fenrir / Ifrit / Titan / Leviathan / Garuda / Shiva / Ramuh / Diabolos / Alexander / Odin / Fire Spirit / Ice Spirit / Air Spirit / Earth Spirit / Thunder Spirit / Water Spirit / Light Spirit / Dark Spirit
  
  
• Ninjutsu
  Monomi: Ichi / Aisha: Ichi / Utsusemi: Ichi / Utsusemi: Ni / Jubaku: Ichi / Hojo: Ichi / Hojo: Ni / Kurayami: Ichi / Kurayami: Ni / Dokumori: Ichi / Myoshu: Ichi / Migawari: Ichi / Kakka: Ichi / Yurin: Ichi
  
  
• Songs
  Foe Requiem (I~VII) / Horde Lullaby (I & II) / Army’s Paeon (I~VI) / Mage's Ballad (I~III) / Valor Minuet (I~V) / Knight’s Minne (I~V) / Blade Madrigal / Sword Madrigal / Hunter's Prelude / Archer's Prelude / Sheepfoe Mambo / Dragonfoe Mambo / Fowl Aubade / Herb Pastoral / Shining Fantasia / Scop’s Operetta / Puppet’s Operetta / Gold Capriccio / Warding Round / Goblin Gavotte / Advancing March / Victory March / Battlefield Elegy / Carnage Elegy / Enchanting Etude / Spirited Etude / Learned Etude / Quick Etude / Vivacious Etude / Dextrous Etude / Sinewy Etude / Bewitching Etude / Logical Etude / Sage Etude / Swift Etude / Vital Etude / Uncanncy Etude / Herculean Etude / Light Carol (I & II) / Earth Carol (I & II) / Water Carol (I & II) / Wind Carol (I & II) / Fire Carol (I & II) / Ice Carol (I & II) / Lightning Carol (I & II) / Dark Carol (I & II) / Light Threnody / Dark Threnody / Earth Threnody / Water Threnody / Wind Threnody / Fire Threnody / Ice Threnody / Lightning Threnody / Magic Finale / Foe Lullaby (I & II) / Goddess's Hymnus / Maiden's Virelai / Chocobo Mazurka / Raptor Mazurka / Foe Sirvente / Adventurer's Dirge / Sentinel's Scherzo / Pining Nocturne
  
  
• Geomancy
  Indi-Regen / Indi-Poison / Indi-Refresh / Indi-STR / Indi-DEX / Indi-VIT / Indi-AGI / Indi-INT / Indi-CHR / Indi-MND / Indi-Fury / Indi-Barrier / Indi-Acumen / Indi-Fend / Indi-Precision / Indi-Voidance / Indi-Focus / Indi-Attunement / Indi-Wilt / Indi-Frailty / Indi-Fade / Indi-Malaise / Indi-Slip / Indi-Torpor / Indi-Vex / Indi-Languor / Indi-Slow / Indi-Paralyze / Indi-Gravity / Geo-Regen / Geo-Poison / Geo-Refresh / Geo-STR / Geo-DEX / Geo-VIT / Geo-AGI / Geo-INT / Geo-CHR / Geo-MND / Geo-Fury / Geo-Barrier / Geo-Acumen / Geo-Fend / Geo-Precision / Geo-Voidance / Geo-Focus / Geo-Attunement / Geo-Wilt / Geo-Frailty / Geo-Fade / Geo-Malaise / Geo-Slip / Geo-Torpor / Geo-Vex / Geo-Languor / Geo-Slow / Geo-Paralyze / Geo-Gravity

[Tennotsukai]

blue mages forgotten?

[HimuraKenshyn]

blue mages forgotten?

Shhhhhh. Don't mess with our tanking.....

[Kojo]

Foil still doesn't really have much of a duration, so it's basically going to be used as a hate tool that can reduce enemy TP move dmg for 45 seconds after use?

[Cowardlybabooon]

Yeah leave ninja alone too on that. I like using spells for extra hate.

[Nebo]

Why would you reduce enmity values on NIN spells? I thought you development types were on board with NINs being tanks now?

[Antanias]

Looking at that list, I'm now convinced that there's little to no hope for this game.