Please consider giving other jobs Warp and Warp II

[Zeroe]

It would be nice if other jobs that specify on magic could use these utility spells. It hardly breaks any balance in the game, and would make for a more mobile and less job intensive experience. Although warp scrolls are a nice substitute, I feel this area can be expanded upon. Thoughts?

[JackDaniels]

Warp scrolls are 10 cp, warp cudgels are cheap, homing instinct..

[Kincard]

Warp scrolls are 10 cp, warp cudgels are cheap, homing instinct..

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Although warp scrolls are a nice substitute, I feel this area can be expanded upon.

He knows there are warp scrolls there. That's not a reason to say it can't be added to other jobs. I think it wouldn't really be a bad idea to give RDMs and SCHs the spell (And maybe GEO when it comes around). The only function these spells serve is convenience/running away so it's not like it's that big a deal if I can warp when I'm on RDM/SCH.

[Economizer]

That's not a reason to say it can't be added to other jobs. I think it wouldn't really be a bad idea to give RDMs and SCHs the spell (And maybe GEO when it comes around). The only function these spells serve is convenience/running away so it's not like it's that big a deal if I can warp when I'm on RDM/SCH.

While I'd love to be able to Warp myself directly home on WHM/SCH without having to teleport and book home first, there is actually a big reason why it isn't added to other jobs, the game economy.

Think of all the Woodcrafters and Alchemists who would be affected if the market for Warp Cudgels took another hit.

I'm sure this is debatable in scope (I'm not even sure I could really muster the energy to defend crafters on this one right now), but I think it shouldn't be said there is "not a reason" at all. This is a reason SE will be thinking of when considering this change, and it might help to address it non-dismissively when arguing the case for change.

[Alhanelem]

I feel this area doesn't need to be expanded upon. There should never be an instance when

-you can't d3 yourself (really, who really actually cares about exp loss anymore?)
-you cant d1/d2 yourself
-you cant use a device/teleport/outpost/etc to either get home or get you to something that can send you home.
-you cant use one of many items that gives a warp effect
-you dont have someone in your party that can do one of the above for you

is a BLM or /BLM really that hard to come by? there is no excuse for not having an easily obtainable trip home- ever.

[Kincard]

I don't get any reason to be against adding this spell to other jobs when it serves no function other than getting you from place to place. There's no job balancing act to be found here. Alternatively they could add an HPing item that has a 30 to one-hour recast. Treat Staff II, Warp Scrolls and the like are all nice, but it'd be nice if I didn't have to run to the conquest guys every time I'm back in town to get another warp scroll. There's a lot of little inconveniences in the game like this where it makes absolutely no sense to me to not at least consider fixing them in some way.

Or remove the rare/ex tag on the warp scrolls and make them stackable. That would be awesome. I can just buy a bunch at once and not have to worry about ever forgetting to get more.

All the other warp items (Nexus Cape + Treat Staff II + Retrace Staves is 5 slots already, and there's a bunch of other types on top of that) take up inventory/satchel space and we all know that that's a huge problem.

I remember back in the NES RPG days when a single teleport item/spell could take you to any town you've been to before. It's pretty amazing when a game released in 2002 does that worse.

[svengalis]

I feel this area doesn't need to be expanded upon. There should never be an instance when

-you can't d3 yourself (really, who really actually cares about exp loss anymore?)
-you cant d1/d2 yourself
-you cant use a device/teleport/outpost/etc to either get home or get you to something that can send you home.
-you cant use one of many items that gives a warp effect
-you dont have someone in your party that can do one of the above for you

is a BLM or /BLM really that hard to come by? there is no excuse for not having an easily obtainable trip home- ever.

How about space?

I have been in situations where I was in an area around mobs that were too weak to kill me and I was without a warp scroll and to far away from op or area not in my control etc...

Just my 2 cents on the whole thing although I don't agree with TC.

[Zeroe]

Although yes there are other ways like I mentioned above, It really more for convenience and situational purposes. The spell should be allowed to be further expanded upon rather than just making it so only /blm can warp. Nothing wrong with scrolls, cudgels, etc, just making your class all the more versatile is fine be me.

[Alhanelem]

Although yes there are other ways like I mentioned above, It really more for convenience and situational purposes. The spell should be allowed to be further expanded upon rather than just making it so only /blm can warp. Nothing wrong with scrolls, cudgels, etc, just making your class all the more versatile is fine be me.

I'm not sure what isn't convenient about any of the other options.

Asking the devs to look into something that isn't really a problem will distract them from looking into something that really is.

Also, I didn't even consider the economy, and I rather agree that obsoleting warp cudgels probably isn't a good idea.

[Kincard]

Being a woodworker myself, I have to say that even if I wasn't incredibly lazy, Warp Cudgels were horribly killed as a way of effectively making gil when they reduced Treat Staff II to a 20 hour recast and made Warp Scrolls so cheap to obtain.

If they took my suggestion of making a charged item have a 30-1 hour recast and applied that to Warp Cudgel, it'd help Woodworking (One of the worst crafts in the game) and make warping more convenient.