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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Monkey-grip for PLDs

    PLDs really shouldn't give up their shields, but they can't keep up with DPS to keep hate.

    So how about let them use 2H weapons in their main hand and still keep their shield?

    In other games it's called monkey-grip. Calabolg + Ochain = 45 Vit for Torcleaver as well as defensive stats.

    PLDs might be able to do their jobs and possibly have more fun doing it.
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    - First SE already said they wouldn't up PLD's damage, which this would do.
    - Second Enmity being broken means even if PLD's DPS went up they still wouldn't be able to act as a "tank". No one does that anymore all DD share the job now.
    - Third VIT and DEF (outside of the shield) are terrible "defensive stats". This would be why you don't see Paladins or any other job loading up on them to tank relevant monsters. PDT, Shield's DEF, and blocks from shields are what make a big difference if you're considering "defensive stats".
    - Forth Calabolg would be a terrible option for PLD considering PLD is on Ragnarok and you'd be using Resolution over Torcleaver anyway.

    Now to play with the idea anyway, with decent buffs and good gear a PLD could put out some decent numbers. It still wouldn't become the "tank" because of the second reason I gave.

    Edit: If you think Ochain is easy and Ragnarok is hard for whatever reason there is also the Occasionally Attacks Twice Magian Great Sword.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 11-14-2012 at 09:46 AM.

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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Should wait until SE comes out with their 'fix' for the enmity system that they have talked about. See how they manage to break it before thinking of more ways for PLD to tank.
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    Cant fit 2h weapon animations onto one hand, the clipping would be insane, theyd have to make brand new animations for all 2h weapon skills to be shown with a single hand.
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    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Galka don't have any problem 1handing 2handed weapons during WSs. Also, I'd have no complaints about them spending some more time adding animation to this game. It is old in many aspects and the animation is definitely one of the biggest offenders.
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    I find it hilarious that the biggest detractors in a post that essentially asks for new animations is the argument that new animations would have to be added, and not that the idea itself is inherently bad or completely unviable.

    As a D&D player with an embarrassing amount of session time, I support monkey grip. Hospitaler ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Galka don't have any problem 1handing 2handed weapons during WSs. Also, I'd have no complaints about them spending some more time adding animation to this game. It is old in many aspects and the animation is definitely one of the biggest offenders.
    The animation quality is one of this game's biggest offenders? That's kind of a crazy thing to say.
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    I would love to see this if for no other reason we could use Spirit Taker with a shield. That would be awesome in my humble opinion ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    PLDs might be able to do their jobs and possibly have more fun doing it.
    The job of PLD is to carry Ochain. There is no other purpose.
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