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    Player Malthar's Avatar
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    Is using FFXIAH considered using a third party tool?

    Is viewing shouts on FFXIAH considered using a third party tool?

    What *exactly* is the definition of "using a third party tool"?
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    Whatever they need it to be to get the outcome they want.

    That's pretty much all a terms of service is good for.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

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    Third party tools directly interface with the game client to give distinct advantages to that player.
    Wikis, forums and auction sites do not fall under that category, and are in fact key to playing FFXI.
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    some ppl like to argue that SE wont target windower users becuase they might lose a large portion of their player base. But i would agree that if they tried to target ppl useing a wiki of ffxiah.com or such, then they defenitly would lose everyone. But that being said, those sites do not fall under thrid party tool catagory
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    If those site's info is displayed in teh game window, then they are.
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    Using FFXIAH probably isn't considered using a third party tool. However, the people running FFXIAH are probably breaking the terms of service by having a third party tool grab all the AH information.

    Unless they write them down manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    If those site's info is displayed in teh game window, then they are.
    No, then whatever program is displaying them in the game window is, not the site itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Using FFXIAH probably isn't considered using a third party tool. However, the people running FFXIAH are probably breaking the terms of service by having a third party tool grab all the AH information.
    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIAH
    Q: How do you get your data?

    A: While the actual data collection routine is proprietary and not public, we will state that we do not violate the Terms of Service via bots or automated in-game 3rd party utilities to collect our data.
    I think they poll the AH servers directly, about once per server every 20 minutes.
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    So they have something that is not the official FF11 client communicating with the FF11 servers. Sounds like third party to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    So they have something that is not the official FF11 client communicating with the FF11 servers. Sounds like third party to me.
    Nah, it's second party.
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
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