Magic Accuracy problem

[Yugl]

Platform: PC
ISP: Verizon
Type of Internet Connection: FIOS
Internet Connection Speed: Good
Date & Time: 09-20-2012 09:08 PM
Frequency: Whenever the spells or WS are used
Character Name: Yugl
Race: Elvaan
World: Odin (Works on Test Server)
Main Job: BLU/SAM/WAR
Support Job: Unknown
Area and Coordinates: Sky
Party or Solo: Solo
NPC Name: N/A
Monster Name: Various Elementals
Steps:
1. Perform WS or Spell
2. Wait for the additional effect to wear

Quoting Prothescar on BG:

In regards to the accuracy of certain additional effects on weaponskills and blue magic, my post from FFXIAH:

My current hypothesis is that it has something to do with the way that certain additional effects resist. Currently I've only documented defense down, blind, and accuracy down additional effects having the problem, and I suspect that these status effects, possibly more, have some issue regarding the specific code bits that govern these additional effect's resist states; i.e. full duration, half resist, full resist. The only wrench in the scheme is Hecatomb Wave, which has no specific duration, however it's possible that even when randomized it can cut the randomized duration in half on a resist.

Currently affected abilities and spells (the ones I've tested):

-Tourbillion (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Sandspin (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Barbed Crescent (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Hecatomb Wave (Add. effect: Blind)
-Tachi: Ageha (Add. effect: Defense down)


Ones recently tested by others:
-Metatron Torment (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Onslaught (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Full Break (Add. effect: Accuracy, Attack, Defense, and Evasion down)
-Armor Break (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Shell Crusher (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Randgrith (Add. effect: Evasion down)
-Nightmare Scythe (Add. effect: Blind)
-Skullbreaker (Add. effect: INT down)


I suspect that similar abilities and spells would behave the same way. I can't test anything else, nor can I file a report on the official forums about the relic weaponskill(s) that are affected, as my subscription lapsed a few weeks ago.

If anyone wants to test some other things, the weaponskills I'd want to look at next would be:

-Gate of Tartarus (Add. effect: Attack down)
-Blade: Metsu (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Guillotine (Add. effect: Silence)
-Tachi: Yukikaze (Add. effect: Blind)
-Tachi: Gekko (Add. effect: Silence)
-Tachi: Kasha (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Weapon Break (Add. effect: Attack down)
-Wasp Sting (Add. effect: Poison)
-Viper Bite (Add. effect: Poison)
-Exenterator (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Blade: Retsu (Add. effect: Paralysis)
-Shattersoul (Add. effect: Magic Defense down)
-Vidohunir (Add. effect: Magic Defense down)
-Garland of Bliss (Add. effect: Defense down)
-Omniscience (Add. effect: Magic Attack down)
-Seedspray (Add. effect: Defense down)




Abilities and spells that are not affected:

-Blade: Kamu (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Shijin Spiral (Add. effect: Plague)
-Blade: Yu (Add. effect: Poison)
-Shadowstitch (Add. effect: Blind)
-Head Butt (Add. effect: Stun)
-Sudden Lunge (Add. effect: Stun)
-Delta Thrust (Add. effect: Plague)
-Spiral Spin (Add. effect: Accuracy down)
-Benthic Typhoon (Add. effect: Defense and Magic Defense down)
-Bilgestorm (Add. effect: Accuracy, Attack, and Defense down)

In short, certain spells and weaponskills's magic accuracy are severely diminished. See bold for affect spells and weapon skills. See italics for unaffected spells and weapon skills. These WS and Spells work fine on the test server, but do not work on the real server.

[Raksha]

What is the problem exactly?

All of those added effects are difficult to land?

How do you know it's not intentional?

Not trying to hate on you, but just reading your post I have no idea what you think needs fixed.

[Raksha]

Real server, they function perfectly fine on test.

Monsters range from Abyssea mobs down to lower level elementals, making sure that neither the normal monsters nor the elementals are negatively biased toward the additional effect's elements. Each spell and weaponskill was used enough times (15~20) to ensure reasonable levels of confidence in their inability to land properly; not a single one of the spells or weaponskills on the "broken" list landed more than twice, and all lands were for half duration.

Additionally, I used Elemental Seal on blue magic to ensure that it is a magic accuracy problem, ES caused the additional effects to land without fail.

Added Full Break to the list. It seems to support my theory on only certain additional effects being affected.
edit:Scratch that, false positive. the whole thing's broken.

edit2: added armor break

edit3: shell crusher too

Looks like it's a discrepancy between the test server and the live servers.

[Byrth]

Yeah, and MAcc is very obviously floored for them. Whether it's intentional or not I cannot say.

[Damane]

this id definitly not intentional if they are working correctly on the test server but fail on the real servers. SE messed something up.

[Byrth]

I fear the opposite. It's clearly not a problem that generalizes to all forms of the debuff.

[Damane]

its only affecting def, acc and evasion down debuffs. So something must be wrong there.

[Raksha]

i see blind and int down on the list too.

[Damane]

i see blind and int down on the list too.

the effects dont even land on mobs that are decent challenge or bellow, let alone on things that are even match or above, you dont want to tell me this is intended right?

[Raksha]

No, but i do want to tell you that it isnt only affecting def, acc, and evasion down debuffs