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    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    I'm not sure the Kraken club argument works for two reasons:
    1. Krakens clubs arn't exactly raining from the sky. While it's true dedicated (insert applicable job here) would get them, they still sell for 90M+ and I think it's a bit silly to balance an event around the assumption everyone has a weapon only a few people do.
    2. You can already use Kraken club and/or shield mastery to get a ton of WS procs out fast anyway, and that's also pretty much tied to your melee speed, so how would it be any different on magic procs?
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    130 posts and noone seemed to pick up on the fact that the reason that magic and ws procs suck, is because they can be AOEd.

    JA procs can't.

    Magic and ws procs were nerfed because people were cleaving, and againg mobs to proc them fast and sweep an area. Now the only way to get a fair proc rate on them is to cleave/aga them.
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    Actually, if I'm not mistaken you can Choke Breath to AoE JA proc on BST and such. How badly nerfed is AoE proccing anyway? I don't think I've seen it happen a single time before.
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    In cities/outlands it's still entirely unnerfed. In CoP Dynamis you can only proc your target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    In cities/outlands it's still entirely unnerfed. In CoP Dynamis you can only proc your target.
    You are a bit mistaken. They nerfed the accuracy terribly, but it is not gone. I have double proc'd w/ a single pet ready move perhaps 2x since the nerf.
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    Do pet TP moves proc JA or WS weaknesses? I know I Aeolian Edged quite a few monsters after the nerf and never saw a double proc.
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    I've double-proc'd using weaponskills on Pup (Spinning Attack), as well as proc'd mobs that weren't the main target. It's rare, but it happens.
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    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Ready Abilities count as JA
    Pup attachments count as WS
    SMN BP's count as magic (even if they are physical, which is kinda silly imo)
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