Perfect defense / embrava unbalance

[Damane]

The only thing that you have to get hit by is either Oblivion Smash x2 or Violent Rupture x2 when it splits. SMN can generally survive either with Stoneskin and PDT gear.

Also I have killed ADL without PD.

you see I can survive those on SCH too with PDT gear and stoneskin. The problem is, until you actually are able to reach out to your melees to cure them (because you need to save yourself first) they will most likely be dead. If those AoE would be only 15' instead of 30', ADL would be managable without PD. The problem is if your support dies, your front line will eat dirt too.
The problem is due to largely enhanced AoE range of ADL, mages cant stand anywhere safe + be in cureing range, because his AoE exeeds 21'

[Raksha]

Were you around at any point during the 8 years before Abyssea? There was multitude of endgame content (everything but AV and PW) that was challenging but beatable without exploiting game mechanics like that. Things involving hate control, crowd control, physical/magical damage phases, melees timing their battle phases, tanks and backup tanks, positioning, kiting, etc.

Sure I was around back then, but I'm talking about new stuff, not just rehashing old stuff (as fun as it was).

[Sarick]

It's Pchan, what did you expect? He is an arrogant hypocrite, everyone knows that. But he was spot on with his complaint. People need to stop looking at who said it and instead look at what's being said.

I said this >>

I do think that these abilities are being overused because their effectiveness however, I see other issues with the original post that make it inapt.

Did you even read my full post? I didn't ninja edit anything extra in, if you look a post later you can see someone quoted me. Outside the removal of the word "of" nothing has changed.

I'm spot on already. Question is, why are you trying to preach this to me after I already explained everything?

[Insaniac]

The only reason Pchan made this thread was to indirectly brag about killing ADL with 3 accounts. It would be a hilarious turn of events if SE saw this and decided MNK needed nerfing.

[Reain]

you see I can survive those on SCH too with PDT gear and stoneskin. The problem is, until you actually are able to reach out to your melees to cure them (because you need to save yourself first) they will most likely be dead. If those AoE would be only 15' instead of 30', ADL would be managable without PD. The problem is if your support dies, your front line will eat dirt too.
The problem is due to largely enhanced AoE range of ADL, mages cant stand anywhere safe + be in cureing range, because his AoE exeeds 21'

I should point out that we don't usually kill it without Perfect Defense we just did one time because we ran out of Astral flows and everyone was up for it.

I don't try and stand out of AoE. I stand with my back to the palace to prevent the knock back. If it's violent rupture it's easy cause I can just squall as soon as my melee are on it.

If it's Oblivion Smash it's harder because it's does more damage and I can't squall till the add effect paralyze is off. My whm is usually gets it off me quickly. Lately I've been carrying remedies too.

If I were playing SCH I would be dropping PT after Embrava and Regen V and locking Tabula Rasa on the ???.

The only reason Pchan made this thread was to indirectly brag about killing ADL with 3 accounts.

Agreed. I think anyone who has done ADL will think that he was lucky that it didn't summon again and that the first one they targetted was the real one. (He might have just did ADLs till the first one was the real one though.)

[Shadowsong]

Agreed. I think anyone who has done ADL will think that he was lucky that it didn't summon again and that the first one they targetted was the real one. (He might have just did ADLs till the first one was the real one though.)

Not a single person doubts this is what happend lol. It took him like 2 weeks to post that video lol

[Arcon]

Question is, why are you trying to preach this to me after I already explained everything?

I'm not, my post was entirely unrelated to you. I just quoted you because you were the last of the few posts complaining about Pchan being a hypocrite, as if that somehow made his point invalid.

The only reason Pchan made this thread was to indirectly brag about killing ADL with 3 accounts. It would be a hilarious turn of events if SE saw this and decided MNK needed nerfing.

While that would be hilarious, it still wouldn't stop him from bragging. MNK is nowhere near as good as he thinks it is, yet he will always pretend that it's overgodly and say so every chance he gets because he's too lazy or unable to play any other jobs.

[Babekeke]

I'm not, my post was entirely unrelated to you. I just quoted you because you were the last of the few posts complaining about Pchan being a hypocrite, as if that somehow made his point invalid.

What makes his post invalid is the fact that SE already stated that the content will be adjusted, so this is just a load of arguing for nothing.

[Trisscar]

SE already said they were nerfing PD and Embrava, whats the point of this thread?

Doesn't address the core issue. That the mobs are unbeatable without.

[Demon6324236]

They said they are nerfing PD/Embrava, they said they are nerfing the content that requires them, we covered that.