yeah, that's what we were thinking , only we thought it was 100% :/ we killed 3 times and I'm sure proc'd all 3, got the gloves on last kill, I think, we were putting in work for +2 gloves for Sin(thf) so the exp bit gets my vote, I'm pretty sure we were hoping for 100's off the NM and why we were camping him and the others around the area, trying to just make use the time ya know (exp for +2.5, currency, and get them dumb gloves). (but did go a run the day before ... no i took us to the wrong zone , that's right.. nvmind. /facepalm) (hehehe we don't see many exp in dyna shouts on cerebrus ;