Guttler improvements

[Malthar]

Hi Everyone,

The guttler is pretty nice, but it still doesn't do enough damage to compete with the other empyreans and relics.

Here is my suggestion. Add the occ does 2.5/3X damage to the pet as well when the owner is main handing a guttler.

Good / bad idea? What's your feedback?

[SNK]

um Guttler trumps the hell out of Farsha and honestly it's a really strong axe at the 95 stage.

[Karbuncle]

um Guttler trumps the hell out of Farsha and honestly it's a really strong axe at the 95 stage.

I agree.

Though I'd be lying if i said I didn't think the idea of Claustrum, Gugnir, and Guttler giving Pets ODD/OTD :Q

[Xilk]

Malthar, please clarify why you think Guttler falls short. Please show damage comparisons or at least show the weapons you are comparing.

Guttler is a really good weapon. Farsha is a piece of joke because cloudsplitter is a joke, but Guttler is a really good weapon.

[Tanama]

I agree.

Though I'd be lying if i said I didn't think the idea of Claustrum, Gugnir, and Guttler giving Pets ODD/OTD :Q

They really should add the relic's ODD/ODT to the pets. Dev Team, I hope you're reading this!

[SpankWustler]

Malthar, please clarify why you think Guttler falls short. Please show damage comparisons or at least show the weapons you are comparing.

Guttler is a really good weapon. Farsha is a piece of joke because cloudsplitter is a joke, but Guttler is a really good weapon.

This.

Guttler may be a let down compared to Relic weapons that actually let someone play differently, such as the options open to Ranger or Dark Knight, but I don't see those as the norm.

Guttler is on the same level as the many other excellent Relic weapons with mediocre weapon-skills or bonuses attached to them, which is most of them.

[Louispv]

This.

Guttler may is a let down compared to Relic weapons that actually let someone play differently, such as the options open to Ranger or Dark Knight, but I don't see those as the norm.

Guttler is on the same level as the many other excellent Relic weapons with mediocre weapon-skills or bonuses attached to them, which is most of them.

Relic WS's (and any ws you have from equipping a weapon, cough*cloudsplitter*cough) shouldn't suck though. The ability to use the WS, the aftermath of the WS, and if anyone ever finishes one, the afterglow are 1/2 of the effects the weapon has.

And I do believe we were told guttler would be given something that at all related to Beastmaster, such as dispensing a unique jug pet. Then again, SE can always simply change their mind without telling us again.

[Vandheer]

Relic WS's (and any ws you have from equipping a weapon, cough*cloudsplitter*cough) shouldn't suck though.

Yes, yesss, yessssssss, and yessssssssssssss to this comment. If you have to work your ass off for a WS it should be good, even more so if it is from a Relic,Empyrean, or Mythic weapon for the sake of them being Relic, Empyrean, or Mythic.

And I do believe we were told guttler would be given something that at all related to Beastmaster, such as dispensing a unique jug pet. Then again, SE can always simply change their mind without telling us again.

This would be very interesting. Can you link the thread where SE stated this?

[Karbuncle]

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On a serious note. Would be nice if some of the more lol Empyrean WS would be boosted.

[SpankWustler]

It would be awesome if all of the Relic and Empyrean and Mythic weapons were evened out and placed on the level of the most useful and fun among them. That would be so awesome.

The Development Bros haven't changed Cloudsplitter or Gungnir in the years they've had to do so, though, so I think it's best to just account for some stuff being a let down when comparing the actual performance of super-special weapons.

In that kind of comparison, Guttler is well in the middle of the pack by virtue of the stuff on it making a moderate amount of sense. Compared to a perfect ideal, a lot of the super-special weapons come up short by some degree.