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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    On the other hand, somewhere like QSC can be better because most the fire cycles are forecasted (more accurate planning), and the mobs are considerably lower and easier to hunt/kill to keep your chances for drop higher. Soil can be a very common drop here when fire is out of season too, which comes handy if you are interested in converting them to other elements through the AH/Bartering--but I found it to be one of the better areas for scoring flame drops by day/weather.
    Hilariously, QSC will frequently spend half the day under Earth Weather even when hot spells are predicted.

    I recently went there on a firesday with hot spells predicted. Half the day was a dust storm. I got 4 soil geodes and 3 flame geodes.

    It immediately struck me as perverse the fact that I was happy about it.
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    Yeah...it's seasonal weather gets pretty intense sometimes, fortunately it cuts both ways though. I have gone there when fire was in season and had it run for 30-40 minutes a pop on back to back days.

    I imagine that's one of the key points to the frustration people have when trying to farm specific rocks--you can have the perfect conditions to farm a buttload of them, but the artificial chokehold they've put on the drop rate screws you over.
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    So when are we going to get some response here? Nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    So when are we going to get some response here? Nothing?
    Devs are on Summer Vaca atm I think, or something like that, they will be back one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    as long as you don’t have severely bad luck.
    Hmm~ luck reliant endgame content, what else sounds like that? (Neo-Nyzul, VW, ADL...)

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    Greetings,

    As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

    Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is also rare, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

    With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

    Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is rarer than fire weather, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

    With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.
    Um, you are joking right? Dark weather occurse rather frequently and can be forced in certain locations. Additionally, so can light weather. Just hop into nyzul isle and you got ligh weather going on all the time thus you can force the drops of these to occur. Fire weather on the other hand is very rare and in most cases doesn't occur in areas that would drop geodes due to level of mob in said areas.

    Wind weather is common, yet these geodes are still frequently priced at 1/3-1/4 the price. Fire weather is not something you can force and possibly won't even occur when able to be online making the only other choice to farm during day...which for some odd reason yields a higher rate of Ifiritite than the lower flame geode in which you need a higher quantity of. Did you not read any of the issues or only skimmed some of the details?
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    It's almost as if the community team does not play the same game we do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

    Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is rarer than fire weather, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

    With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.
    Please look at this it show the weather freq of Fire weather pretty well and this was created by the user base vs the info you have is well off.


    from wiki

    Dark weather is prolly the second hardest weather to find but it's less rare that fire weather
    4 zones vs 3 zones and there aren't times of the year it won't appear in any zone

    Also this show the diff between fire and dark weather.
    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._Intensity.png

    As for light weather it would be true if it wasn't for the fact Nyzle has 100% light weather and drop geodes.

    Honestly i feel that post was very insulting as a reply since there out right lies.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 08-14-2012 at 10:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    As mentioned, the price of Flame Geodes is comparatively quite high due to its popularity for creating items such as Flame Gems/Pyrosoul Rings and completing Magian Trials.

    Looking at weather frequency versus cost, dark and light weather is rarer than fire weather, yet the price of these geodes are not very expensive. Also, there isn't a difference between the rate of obtaining Snow and Flame geodes that would cause a difference of 80x the cost.

    With that said, increasing the drop rate for these would only be for convenience purposes. If you have any specific examples as to how Flame Geodes drop rates are not balanced versus other elements, please let us know and we can submit them for consideration.
    Make fire weather more common. Problem solved.

    Flame Geode drop rates are not balanced at all, due to the fact that STR equipment serves an even bigger purpose in curent endgame content, hence the sharp decline in availability of stones. Also the fact that the HQ3 rate to even create Flame Gems is is extremely low, hence the constant need to purchase more and more Flame Geodes at absurd prices.

    Mistake on your side, but dark weather is way more common than fire and light weather combined.
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