Relic and Empyrean jobs that can use them.

[Fupafighter]

Why wouldn't your dnc destroy everything but heavy DD? WHat else is there? mages?

You know what, who cares. Would just mean dnc would be making a bit more currency in dyna. Not like anyone uses the job for anything else these days.

[FrankReynolds]

You know what, who cares. Would just mean dnc would be making a bit more currency in dyna. Not like anyone uses the job for anything else these days.

Pretty much.

[Theytak]

Is there some reason that any of those jobs should deal better damage? they all appear to be hybrid jobs with (somewhat lame) other roles besides DD just like dancer.

I'm not really sure how a rng or a blu wouldn't be outdamaging a dnc, unless they were terrible at their jobs, or how rng is anything other than a heavy dd to begin with.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm not really sure how a rng or a blu wouldn't be outdamaging a dnc, unless they were terrible at their jobs, or how rng is anything other than a heavy dd to begin with.

They have treasure hunter now, which means they have to suck. Balance! /sarcasm

None of the role those jobs fill are threatened by dnc doing %3 more (guessing. has anyone ever actually done the math?) damage. They all have other stuff that they do, that (supposedly) get's them into the alliance, or allows them to get by without.

Mandau doesn't add treasure hunter effect, give additional levels of dual wield, allow dancer to do damage from a distance, cast spells or any other thing that steps on the toes of those other jobs.

It's really not much difference balance wise. But it does give dancers a new carrot and thf who already own one some extra mileage.

[Chamaan]

Okay so, completely throwing aside the cop out of "Puppetmasters shouldn't have Spharai because counter because balance because apricots in spring." What's stopping them from adding new Relics? Yeah they wanted one for each weapon type, but there's not a relic for each weapon type. Bards get a relic that goes in the ranged slot. Why can't the jobs that don't have a relic right now?

-Make a relic chakram that has some awesome bonus like super potent Abs-TP and give it to Dancer.
-Give Pup a relic animator (people have been asking for one since forever).
-Scholar can have a relic book like our Empyrean ammo item.
-Cors would sure love to have a super keen relic bullet that can't be fired/used in WS, so long as it does fantastic things to Quick Draw (especially since they still want to change QD).
-For Blu... Ionno. Give them a fork, like Quina in FFIX.
-Looking ahead, Geomancers are getting bells, and Rune Fencers can have like crests or something.

Look at that. Weapon types for relics that you can make job exclusive all you want. Or don't. I'm sure Blms, Smns, and Whms would love to have a relic that doesn't require TP to do things. Give them the book too.

I just want to point out that most of those are things people have been asking for in forums for a long time. These aren't new ideas. Can we get an answer why new ammo/ranged slot relics aren't already in development?

[Ordoric]

na na sch need a relic spell i mean they got a AF spell and whm got a hammer blm got a wand lol

[Demon6324236]

na na sch need a relic spell i mean they got a AF spell and whm got a hammer blm got a wand lol

Admittedly I would have preferred if Meteor was a Relic spell for BLM, and it was effective alone, but more people still made it awesome, rather than now where its worthless alone. But thats just me.

[Ordoric]

i always viewd meteor as a rdm spell lol

[Demon6324236]

Honestly I knew Meteor was for BLM, but I did kinda expect something like Impact would be for RDM, enfeebling + damage ya know?