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  1. #431
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    Because one person had a chance at winning twice, meaning somewhere out there, either your mule or a legitimate person was gonna go away empty-handed guaranteed. If you don't see that then you are just foolish.
    They created the contest based on the number of eligible players. That is why they didn't accidentally make 1,000,000 relic prizes, or just give away 3 costumes total across all servers.

    What you are saying basically is this: "I think I am entitled to a prize that only exists because some other guy paid for it."

    Do you understand? You or any other person aren't entitled to that prize. There would be less prizes to distribute if there were less mules. You still would have no prize if that guy didn't have a mule account. There would just be one less prize to win, thus your odds remain the same.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 08-02-2012 at 11:53 PM.

  2. #432
    Player Vosslerr's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    They created the contest based on the number of eligible players. That is why they didn't accidentally make 1,000,000 relic prizes, or just give away 3 costumes total across all servers.

    What you are saying basically is this: "I think I am entitled to a prize that only exists because some other guy paid for it."

    Do you understand? You or any other person aren't entitled to that prize. There would be less prizes to distribute if there were less mules. You still would have no prize if that guy didn't have a mule account. There would just be one less prize to win, thus your odds remain the same.
    There would not be less prizes to distribute. There was a guaranteed number of winners as displayed when you signed up. Therefore if you registered your mule, (A separate account, and a separate person basically to SE). you cut the chances of someone else winning. In fact, if your mule had won, there was one person that would not have received a prize. "Lets all register our mules because they are more important than a regular person", is basically what your implying. Your opinion is upto you, but just because you pay for multiple accounts shouldn't give you the right to have multiple chances of winning. Self-conscience should make you think about the other people that lost because of people registering mules.
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    Last edited by Vosslerr; 08-03-2012 at 12:10 AM.

  3. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    There would not be less prizes to distribute. There was a guaranteed number of winners as displayed when you signed up. Therefore if you registered your mule, (A separate account, and a separate person basically to SE). you cut the chances of someone else winning. In fact, if your mule had won, there was one person that would not have received a prize.
    The number of total prizes was based on number of players. Remove players from the pool, you reduce the number of prizes.
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  4. #434
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    There would not be less prizes to distribute. There was a guaranteed number of winners as displayed when you signed up. Therefore if you registered your mule, (A separate account, and a separate person basically to SE). you cut the chances of someone else winning.
    So what your saying is that if there were only 100k players total, SE would be stupid and make 1,000,000 prizes and just give everybody ten of them? Think about that for a minute.

    They based the number of "Guaranteed winners" on the number of eligible players including alternate accounts.

    You get what you paid for.
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  5. #435
    Player Vosslerr's Avatar
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    I see what you are saying. Good point. I still think people should have registered only their main in consideration of other people, but probably too much to ask. I really hope i have a chance to recieve the scythe later though if anything.
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    Last edited by Vosslerr; 08-03-2012 at 12:30 AM.

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    hmmm so we went from a lottery of picking numbers (where we could win at least the lowest price) to a lottery where we answered a question to get a draw for a small number of prizes. Wonder how they got that by the laws...
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    Because by making us ask a question it was basically using our...wit to have a chance and not JUST luck? It's probably one of those really small loop holes.
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  8. #438
    Player Vosslerr's Avatar
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    I probably did get my hopes up for at least rank 4 prize. I did not expect that many more than ~6k non-JP people still played this game considering my server peaks @ 2400 including JP lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vosslerr View Post
    I see what you are saying. Good point. I still think people should have registered only their main in consideration of other people, but probably too much to ask. I really hope i have a chance to recieve the scythe later though if anything.
    Imagine the frustration of those who pay for multiple accounts, but they are linked to one SqEX account, meaning they can not participate with those additional accounts even though they pay the full price!

    If anything, they should not have allowed users to enter character names outside their account, which led to single characters getting multiple prizes. They should have not allowed that, but allowed every POL account to participate, instead of every SqEX account.

    Allowing people to select any character to receive the prize(s) pretty much defeats the purpose of limiting participants to one POL account per SqEX account, which I guess has to do with 'how many players there are', which seems to be how they calculated the amount of prizes.

    What we can learn from this story is: Don't use a single SqEX account even if it is convenient.
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    did they start this yet? I keep seeing the changed date but no new date added
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    It is a quiet thing to fall..... but it is far more terrible to admit it!

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