Thread: NEO Nyzul 2.0

Originally Posted by saevel

Wish is talking out their 5th point of contact, he's the pole SCH, the one without secret ninja magic. Without secret ninja magic your talking less then 5% win rate, heck I'd say somewhere in the 1~2% win rate.

No, no, no, no, no. Did you even watch videos I posted beyond the first? 75% of the time I am not the rune SCH. My group has a 40% win rate without secret magic or any other BS excuse you're trying to claim. This event is simple: Good players win, Bad players don't. Become a good player and you will clear this content in a few weeks. My group clears 20 floors on average and won 7 and lost 9 or 10. Suck less, quit making excuses, etc.

Part 1: http://youtu.be/zfSsZS60DjI
Part 2: http://youtu.be/4Pd4FDemLOM

And Demon, youre just bad, I dont even care, suck less and you'll win, that simple.

I've already seen your vid's wish, their just you running around by yourself most of the time. Your group is running incredibly slow, at least on camera. The floors are so large that it takes ages to run to the bottom and get the last specified family, and god help you if you get kill all and it's that big. There are a number of things that spell instant fail. It's rather strange, of all the crying about NNI the ~ONLY~ "video" is a pole SCH running around by themselves claiming that their simply "better" then everyone else. Only way you have a 40% "win rate" is your melee's have attended the azure underwear school of secret ninja techniques.

Now what's really happening, your melee's are using secret ninja magic and lots of it. As one of the SCH's you don't need any of it, just powder boots. For lamps they will plant you at one and tell you when to fire it off cause they know the order.

You may be able to BS the pleebs out there, but having done a metric f*ck ton of NNI to get members of my LS gear I know your BSing. Most others who regularly do NNI know your BSing. We realize you don't want it nerfed as you and our group are most likely using it for mercing, and that would be bad for business.

Originally Posted by wish12oz

No, no, no, no, no. Did you even watch videos I posted beyond the first? 75% of the time I am not the rune SCH. My group has a 40% win rate without secret magic or any other BS excuse you're trying to claim. This event is simple: Good players win, Bad players don't. Become a good player and you will clear this content in a few weeks. My group clears 20 floors on average and won 7 and lost 9 or 10. Suck less, quit making excuses, etc.

Part 1: http://youtu.be/zfSsZS60DjI
Part 2: http://youtu.be/4Pd4FDemLOM

And Demon, youre just bad, I dont even care, suck less and you'll win, that simple.

Meh, it does not matter how good you are. Bad jumps will fuck the run up probably every one out of four or so runs regardless. There is too much luck involved. Nothing like clearing four two or three floor jumps in record time only to know you could have been at floor 20+ in shorter time with better jumps instead of floor 8 or 12.

That being said my group (SAM DRK WAR BLU SCH SCH) has about a 50%+ win rate with no movement cheating, powder boots, or any of that annoyance. In fact one member does not even have w legs for his DRK. Only had one night we did not win any runs. Lately it has been 2/3 wins with the loss always being in the 90s. We have lost on floor 99 more than any other floor.

I think most of the problem with people who can not win is that they have bad strategy, ordinary gear, and a lack of coordination. I save a lot of time by taking a room on all floors and AoEing it to death on BLU while everyone moves on to more mobs. IMO you gain more from VOIP than anything else. Being able to call out dead ends early, telling people to keep going because you will solo this mob, and verbally notifying direction for NMs, singles, and lamps shaves time off everywhere. Even for (dare I say it?) calling out skill chains. The WAR and I go one way on boss floors and the SAM and DRK the other way. When we find the NM I set up light with CDC and the WAR rape closes it with Ukon.

Nyzul is actually really easy even if the lamps could use adjustment IMO.The difficulty is solely in the random floor jumps.

Only two right things in your post are the following :
*lamp floors completely suck
*being able to talk to others while playing increases your success rate.

So basically you are agreeing with all the comlaints so stop defending it. When the devs did post about nyzul they did say they wanted people to reach F80 if not too unlucky anf F100 if extremely lucky. Turns out this is not what is happening by any means. They also ajusted it so that you can either get F80 or 100. If at least we had the possiblility to go up after F80. You could easily imagine F80 being forced.