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  1. #111
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    And Shining Ruby for another 238 ^^
    If it's applied after everything else, yes, which I doubt though. Guess I can test it next time.
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  2. #112
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    175 defense is pretty decent. If we take the old Ig-alima numbers they gave us (1059 attack), and give a player an arbitrary 400 defense without protect, current Protect V would put it at 460 defense, while new Protect V would give 575 defense.

    Given a positive level correction of +1.0 (maybe 1.05, but 1.0 is good enough here), cRatio for current Protect V would be 3.302, while cRatio for new Protect V would be 2.842, for a 14% reduction in damage taken.

    Use Berserk, and defense is reduced to 345 (current) or 431 (new), giving cRatios of 4.0 and 3.457, 13.6% reduction.

    Remove the level correction component, and additional damage reduction is about 20%.

    Only complaint I would have is that +5 defense per merit is pretty cheap, since meriting to 5/5 is only a 2% additional reduction in damage taken compared to 1/5. Make it +15 defense per merit (the equivalent of another Protect 1, and 6% damage reduction for taking it to 5/5) and it would be worthwhile to at least consider it.


    Of course that's all based on the idea of the current flat increase, whereas Camate indicated it should actually be a percentage increase, so subject to change.
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  3. #113
    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motenten View Post
    Only complaint I would have is that +5 defense per merit is pretty cheap, since meriting to 5/5 is only a 2% additional reduction in damage taken compared to 1/5. Make it +15 defense per merit (the equivalent of another Protect 1, and 6% damage reduction for taking it to 5/5) and it would be worthwhile to at least consider it.
    This.

    Although these updates to Protect as a whole are great, it still doesn't get around the fact that it's just not worth meriting protectra V if you're a full-time /SCH, and definately not worth putting more than 1 merit into it and getting the augment done on relic +2 for a total of 55 extra def.... or is it?

    Looking at Montenten's figures above, 5/5 with augment will be an additional 5.5% reduction in damage compared to 1/5 and no augment.
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  4. #114
    Player Dantedmc's Avatar
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    5.5% seems like enough for me to go 5/5 protectra V now, atleast until I actually see a need for a devotion. Though I may 4/5 Protectra V and 1/5 devotion just because. The difference between 1/5 Shellra V and 5/5 augmented is only around 5% too correct?
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    That's only on something with 1000 attack, it gets less as the monsters attack gets close to your defense.

    Definitely worth 1/5 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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