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    Player Drac's Avatar
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    Second Automaton

    I think it's about time that pups level 99 gained the ability to summon a second Automaton.

    Now before you completely dismiss the idea, hear me out.

    1. It would be awesome

    2. Some limitation would be have to be set.
    - can't have 2 of the same frame out or something
    - large cooldown for 2nd Maton.

    3. It would be better than our current 2hour (not saying it should replace it, maybe be an alternative)

    4. It would not be overpowered compared to recent additions to the game. (/debate)

    Feel free to discus this idea below.
    <3 Aphmau
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    Player Llana_Virren's Avatar
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    Let SMNs and BSTs do the same thing, and you might have yourself an argument.
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    How would that work though? Would the 2nd automaton have it's own set of maneuvers? I think it'd be pretty cool in a way because it opens up the realm for so many possibilities... but it also potentially unleashes a huge headache.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Let SMNs and BSTs do the same thing, and you might have yourself an argument.
    Why should SMN/BST get something just because PUP does?
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    Player Jackastheripper's Avatar
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    As a Pup, no thanks.
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    A second automaton is not impossible, we already can have a pet and a NPC (escort, magian book, fellow).

    But it would not have the same level of control as our actual pet has. It might not even be an actual automaton.
    Perhaps a spheroid that grants small sphere bonusses (pun intended) based on maneuvers and sticks with the puppetmaster.
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kose View Post
    How would that work though? Would the 2nd automaton have it's own set of maneuvers? I think it'd be pretty cool in a way because it opens up the realm for so many possibilities... but it also potentially unleashes a huge headache.

    Why should SMN/BST get something just because PUP does?
    For arguement's sake SMN should get this more than any of the others as it's the one job without that strong of a pet.

    That said: Why shouldn't they, DRG should get two pets too.
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    Player Kose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    For arguement's sake SMN should get this more than any of the others as it's the one job without that strong of a pet.

    That said: Why shouldn't they, DRG should get two pets too.
    I wasn't saying they shouldn't get it. I was just saying that if PUP was to ever get something like this, I don't see how that's reasoning behind replicating it for BST/SMN/DRG. I do think as far as possibilities go (for PUP and SMN anyway. I'm not too familiar with DRG and BST) it'd be interesting but I'm not sure that I'd actually want it.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kose View Post
    I wasn't saying they shouldn't get it. I was just saying that if PUP was to ever get something like this, I don't see how that's reasoning behind replicating it for BST/SMN/DRG. I do think as far as possibilities go (for PUP and SMN anyway. I'm not too familiar with DRG and BST) it'd be interesting but I'm not sure that I'd actually want it.
    Well I suppose all pet jobs while different all follow the same logic of one pet each, It's the balancing between pet jobs, if SE were to change that it'd need to be universal through all pet jobs.
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    Player Llana_Virren's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kose View Post
    Why should SMN/BST get something just because PUP does?
    They shouldn't, which was my point. PUP has no need for an additional pet, when all other pet jobs (including SMN, which is probably the weakest of them) have not even been considered for this kind of adjustment.

    The counter-question: Why -should- PUP get this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drac View Post
    I think it's about time that pups level 99 gained the ability to summon a second Automaton.

    Now before you completely dismiss the idea, hear me out.

    1. It would be awesome

    2. Some limitation would be have to be set.
    - can't have 2 of the same frame out or something
    - large cooldown for 2nd Maton.

    3. It would be better than our current 2hour (not saying it should replace it, maybe be an alternative)

    4. It would not be overpowered compared to recent additions to the game. (/debate)

    Feel free to discus this idea below.
    <3 Aphmau

    Hmm.......Nah
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