Thread: Diablo 3 and Abyssea 2.0

Originally Posted by Chronofantasy

Agreed! FFXI is dying, I doubt (Insert new MMOs) is going to go anywhere.

Fixed that for you. Seriously, once the fresh car smell wears off of these new MMOs, it's going to go right back to "When will we see the light of day of (newly announced MMO a year from now) and how good will it be?"

Look at Rift and SWTOR, especially SWTOR.

D3 only has 1 thing and 1 thing only going for it: Die hard D1 & D2 fans, otherwise it really is nothing new or innovative or even that fun to be honest.

Making a new expansion would do nothing. Expansions rarely add new players, mostly they only serve to retain current ones. That doesn't change much without the game actually being marketed and promoted- And it's really hard to promote something so old. A full refresh of everything- graphics, polish of old and new content, general improvements, and then re-promoting the game to appeal to the people that are who we were when the game started all those years ago- might do the trick. The thing is, you'd have to convince SE's top brass that it would be a worthy investment. And that's honestly a pretty hard sell even though it could work.

I'm really tired of 'ffxi is dying!" threads. God dang, it's lasted 10 years! They should be proud it has gone on this long. Nothing lasts forever. Be happy you've enjoyed it for so long, instead of sinking into gloom over its supposedly imminent doom (Which I honestly don't see being all that soon- FFXI still has more servers and more players than a lot of MMOs that have existed to date)

Sadly for the "FFXI is dying, and ffxiv will suck" crowd, it's FFXIV that's being revamped- and they're doing everything they can to make it enticing. Maybe some of you naysayers should actually try it so you can give a fair opinion.

On the whole, I don't even like one more than the other, personally- What keeps me on it are a few things- mainly the more modern look-and-feel, more traditional MMO UI, and the content, while lacking in quantity, feels fresh and engaging. Its main issue right now is key gameplay conveniences that are still missing, e.g. delivery system, too many junk drops cluttering inventory, and the search and grouping functionality is cumbersome.

what keeps me attached to XI, besides my character i've invested so much time into, is the sheer amount of stuff you can do, the existence of a fun pvp system, however unpopular it may be, Stronger storyline characters that are developed well (The core storyline in XIV has yet to be significantly added to due to the new team having to spend their time fixing all the stuff that was broke by the first team). Also the presence of certain jobs that i'm not seeing as likely to come to XIV.

Both games have their pros and cons, and I'm sick of the fanboyism. I honestly wish they'd balance the resources spent on each- But I'm not going to crap all over one game or say they should axe one of them or expect them to be doomed to faliure.

Originally Posted by Oakrest

You couldn't be any more wrong. Most gamers are not marketers, they certainly can be indirectly (through word of mouth, social media, etc). However what most gamers are, are gamers - they login to whatever they want to play because they draw some amount of fun out of the content set by the creators, and don't get off on running a free awareness campaign for the company that created the game. Sure, many of us say to our RL buddy, "hey, you should come try out this game!" but the degree of effort in this context is an entirely different universe. Most of us do what Vold has posted, and look elsewhere for gaming kicks, it's much easier - we play games for fun, not work, right? It's like why planets and bubbles are round, they require the least amount of energy to exist.

my statement is actually right on the mark, SE is not promoting FFXI, they barely promoted it when they did, if we the players want it to have new life then we the players will need to help make that happen, but hey, you are right about one thing, the majority of the players wouldn't, they would just move on to something else than try to get their friends on here

All of this can very much come true, but unfortunately SE has not been willing to do what it takes to make it happen. They are simply sticking with the safe bet at this point, which is milking the game for all it's worth.

I've already opted to not renew my subscription this month for the first time in 8 years. I probably won't be gone too long and will renew to take care of some odds and ends and to see if I care to play any longer into the future. But the fact that I of all people have managed to say goodbye is a very bad sign for the state of the game. I'm sure things are great for every one but us lifers, but as I am finding out now perhaps I am not as "lifer" as I thought I was. I'm angry with the crafting changes. I'm angry with the continuous focus on temp fix battle content that screams "we devs give up trying". I'm angry with several decisions regarding level 99 items. I'm angry with their ideals and dropping of the ball because of those ideals. I'm mostly angry that to be the absolute best at anything it now requires ten times the time sink as ever before simply because they lack the man power to create timely content so they compensate by making us work like slaves.

So, you know, best of luck to everyone who's happy to eat what SE is feeding them. It's just not my kind of food any longer. So when I come back, if for good or not, may be tomorrow or weeks from now, I will simply forget everything that displeases me and focus on the goals I was chasing before I left. It'll be no different from pretending Alien Resurrection never existed to spare my sanity. Easy peasy.

In before Alh.... ah shit.

FFXI isn't dying, not yet anyway, with an MMO like it word of mouth is what gets fresh blood on it, so if you want to get new players convince your friends to join up.

the majority of you that keep saying that it's dying aren't willing to do that though are ya? hate to break it to you but if you want FFXI to stay around and get fresh new content(I mean the real stuff not the trickle as of late) then we need to get new players in the game ourselves. SE isn't going to invest in this game unless they see a surge of new blood.

they are giving us some nice new UI features on the windows version that kinda points to them wanting to get the players on the PC, perhaps they do, who knows, what I'm saying though is, if we want new blood, it is us the player base that will have to convince them to join at the moment, I for one would love to see SE invest in this game to give us a fresher look and feel and have the game last a lot longer, I put a lot of time and effort into this game and feel kinda sad that it might actually go to the way side. just my 2 cents, but hey I wanna see fresh blood.

you know I help new players because its kinda neat to see the same through their eyes, kinda like showing a kid something new