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    Player Ihnako's Avatar
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    regardinf TH - unbalanced pet jobs

    Since one of the last updates BST got take away TH3 for 2 of it's pets.
    But considering that those pets still got TH1 and are the one of the better tanking pets BST still got an unfair advantage over other pet jobs who have to sacrifice abilities for TH.

    So SE - there are 2 options

    #1 no TH for any pet job
    #2 a basic TH for every pet job

    It's up to you but I think #1 is the better option
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    TH is a horrible concept anyway they should just get rid of it all together. Needing to bring a certain job to increase drop rate just ends up being a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    TH is a horrible concept anyway they should just get rid of it all together. Needing to bring a certain job to increase drop rate just ends up being a pain.
    That and it causes the developers to center design around TH instead of making the job functional and TH a mere tertiary bonus.

    Ideally, up drop rates across the board, nerf or get rid of TH, fix THF.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    I pretty much am in a RL forced break from FFXI. And as such i've tried to refrain from commenting on a game that i'm currently not playing, but for crying out loud ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ihnako View Post
    Since one of the last updates BST got take away TH3 for 2 of it's pets.
    But considering that those pets still got TH1 and are the one of the better tanking pets BST still got an unfair advantage over other pet jobs who have to sacrifice abilities for TH.

    So SE - there are 2 options

    #1 no TH for any pet job
    #2 a basic TH for every pet job

    It's up to you but I think #1 is the better option

    One of the things i've gotten so sick of over the years are ppl like you OP that make ridiculous demands of SE for no other reason than a severe case of the ol' 'green-eyed monster'.

    I'm not a BST in any way shape or form and even i have been taken aback by how little of a notion SE has for that job. Its always been 2 steps forward and 5 steps back and to the side. SE is doing quite a good job of gutting that job without your jealousy-driven 2 cents.

    Now as its obvious you are one of those delusional new breed PUP that i was seeing more and more of recently, i will not belabor the issue-i'll just say if you want TH to be a natural part of your job w/o having to rely on /sub or gear, swap to THF, RNG, or BST for goodness' sake and call it a day.

    ....or if you are actually wanting to broaden PUP's horizons, why not ask SE instead for a revamp on how many of the hard to get attachments are obtained? Because personally, i think that is a much more pressing issues for PUP atm. SE earned much goodwill from me with the recent AI fixes, but they still need to address the fact that some attachments just are not within the grasp of every PUP out there who wants them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritreaver View Post
    I pretty much am in a RL forced break from FFXI. And as such i've tried to refrain from commenting on a game that i'm currently not playing, but for crying out loud ...

    One of the things i've gotten so sick of over the years are ppl like you OP that make ridiculous demands of SE for no other reason than a severe case of the ol' 'green-eyed monster'.

    I'm not a BST in any way shape or form and even i have been taken aback by how little of a notion SE has for that job. Its always been 2 steps forward and 5 steps back and to the side. SE is doing quite a good job of gutting that job without your jealousy-driven 2 cents.

    Now as its obvious you are one of those delusional new breed PUP that i was seeing more and more of recently, i will not belabor the issue-i'll just say if you want TH to be a natural part of your job w/o having to rely on /sub or gear, swap to THF, RNG, or BST for goodness' sake and call it a day.

    ....or if you are actually wanting to broaden PUP's horizons, why not ask SE instead for a revamp on how many of the hard to get attachments are obtained? Because personally, i think that is a much more pressing issues for PUP atm. SE earned much goodwill from me with the recent AI fixes, but they still need to address the fact that some attachments just are not within the grasp of every PUP out there who wants them.
    OMG you are DIREWOLF!?
    And he's right the main issue with PUP are the attachments that drop from the brown caskets in dudgeons that don't drop. Sure skill up is nice, but its not a 1.2M nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juilan View Post
    OMG you are DIREWOLF!?
    And he's right the main issue with PUP are the attachments that drop from the brown caskets in dudgeons that don't drop. Sure skill up is nice, but its not a 1.2M nice...

    Well i am the shellholder for it anyways. Hopefully my RL issues will calm down enough for me to play again soon.

    *Big Favor* Please send a /t to Elkinsilvermoon or Jonnydutch that i haven't died all the way yet and will be back when i can.


    @the OP.


    I say again, with less tact and a whole lot fewer words, quit being a whiny brat. You make a poor example of a pet job lover for the rest of the FFXI playerbase. There is a gorram moogle in your MH for a reason, jackass. Need TH bad for something? Use the little humper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    TH is a horrible concept anyway they should just get rid of it all together. Needing to bring a certain job to increase drop rate just ends up being a pain.
    Take away TH and THF would iterally be useless. Less solo ability than DNC, less DD capability than any other DD. The only thing it would bring to the table is an enmity control function that hasn't been relevant to the game since 2005. Might as well just delete it from the game.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 03-20-2012 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    Take away TH and THF would iterally be useless. Less solo ability than DNC, less DD capability than any other DD. The only thing it would bring to the table is an enmity control function that hasn't been relevant to the game since 2005. Might as well just delete it from the game.
    Why delete it? Why not just fix the job to be actually worthwhile without TH?
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Why delete it? Why not just fix the job to be actually worthwhile without TH?
    ^ This. Why not get rid of TH and make thf a decent DD like almost every single other mmo in the universe that has a thf or rogue type job.

    I had a realization the other night, SE puts entirely too much effort into trying to make each job as unique as possible. I actually many of the problems in the game on this. If you look at other MMO's out there, DD means DD. In FFXI DD means sam. Or war. Or mnk. Or whatever the flavor of the month happens to be. I feel like SE needs to spend a little less time worrying about preserving the uniqueness of each job and worry more about closing the gap and creating a little equality. That whole balance farce they keep yammering on about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    TH is a horrible concept anyway they should just get rid of it all together. Needing to bring a certain job to increase drop rate just ends up being a pain.
    LIKE needing to bring a BLM for every single seal/coin/stone/jewel/card farm in Abyssea?

    That's a terrible idea.
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