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  1. #31
    Player VZX's Avatar
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    You can tell whether it's main hit or DA/TA proc by looking at your WS TP return.

    Still, I think that's not the interesting part. The interesting point is whether multi-hit WS's 2nd,3rd,4th, etc hit considered as ODSD-able hit or not and whether it has the same rule as DA/TA proc on normal swing.
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  2. #32
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    I guess Exenterator with defender up and 0% DA/TA would be the easiest test subject.
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  3. #33
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    ...except that's not possible because /WAR gives DA!
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    There are surprisingly few ways to turn one's attack to rubbish outside of Defender, I have learned tonight.

    Even Nashmau Stew, which I thought would wreck attack much like it wrecks everything else, apparently adds 18% attack?! The List of attack- equipment usable by Dancer doesn't look promising, either. Most of it is Rare/EX or rarely sold.

    That last bit is fortunate, I suppose, because dumb people would totally use that dumb stuff if it grew on dumb trees.
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  5. #35
    Player Asymptotic's Avatar
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    Yeah, for my tests i was using usually Sveltesse Gouriz + 2 platinum earrings. I couldn't find much else that I could just grab easily.
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    Tactical Mantle and Aiming Bracelets. Additionally, you can set your skill to 0 on the Test Server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Tactical Mantle and Aiming Bracelets. Additionally, you can set your skill to 0 on the Test Server.
    An Adler Ring is also very easy to get.
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    ...except that's not possible because /WAR gives DA!
    Man it's been almost a decade since I lvled war, do you get defender before you get DA?
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  9. #39
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Man it's been almost a decade since I lvled war, do you get defender before you get DA?
    Same level (25).
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    All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
    FFXIV: Selbina > Arcon Villiers

  10. #40
    Player Asymptotic's Avatar
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    I shared the information with our friends over in the Japanese forum:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...2%B8-%E3%80%8D
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