[dev1102] So what is the Ultimate Spell for RDM?

[Crimson_Slasher]

Systematically, i dont feel is the right word for it. I feel like theyre drawing names from a hat at the moment, and rdm is stuck on the seam at the bottom. Still i too hope we can get something shiny as well as the fixes we can use. Its just a shame for the devs, damned if they do, damned if they dont. No matter what, unless the fixes are ridiculous, SOMEONE will have their panties in a bunch.

I think rather than an ultimate spell id rather have some super JA for that. Once again double-cast would be nice, 10 minute recast, 5 min durration, 2x nuke/heal potency for 2x mp cost. Sweet.

[hiko]

gogogo Amnesia!!

[Kaisha]

I'd be fine if they were given Reflect as their endgame spell, as the devs have already been considering implementing the spell.

[Kristal]

I'd be fine if they were given Reflect as their endgame spell, as the devs have already been considering implementing the spell.

BLM x6 start casting Meteor on NM. RDM casts Reflect on RDM. NM steals the buffs of all players. NM reflects Meteor. NM fades away with a look of disappointment on his face.

[Quetzacoatl]

BLM x6 start casting Meteor on NM. RDM casts Reflect on RDM. NM steals the buffs of all players. NM reflects Meteor. NM fades away with a look of disappointment on his face.

What NM are you referring to? In b4 woosh

[Daniel_Hatcher]

BLM x6 start casting Meteor on NM. RDM casts Reflect on RDM. NM steals the buffs of all players. NM reflects Meteor. NM fades away with a look of disappointment on his face.

Impressive, never known Reflect to reflect AoE.

[ShadowViper]

Most rdms agree that the jobs usefullness has diminished greatly. I see recommendations all the time of new spells and new abilities yes cool sounding as they may be, such as reflect, but does that change the issues we have. The problem with the job is it lacks a role. With 20 jobs and only 18 spots in a full group a jack of all trade doesn't usually fit since you will have more defined roles in those 18 spots. Whm is the healer, blm the nuker, SCH the fall back but has its uniqness with dots, yet what does rdm have.

ALL our enfeebs minus merits are given to other jobs the only spell we have thats another job can't use is Refresh 2 and really there are jobs that provide similar functions in a aoe manor. SE going to adjust enfeebling but how does that help rdm exactly just means jobs that you would bring anyhow will be able to to help with enfeebs. Unusual that we are the masters of enfeebling and enhancing and yet all our abilities lie single target, where other jobs that are masters of other usefulness are also capable of doing our tasks in AOE fashions. This is the role RDM should of been in from the beginning the group buffer and the groups crowd control, atleast then there would be a reason to bring a rdm to events especially with one such as legion on the way.

[Duelle]

The problem with the job is it lacks a role.

The job in concept doesn't and should not have a singular role, but instead have several roles to choose from given the job's versatility. The problem is that we can't openly choose our roles because of shoddy role distribution. You buff support and the melee side gets dumped on, you buff melee and the support side gets dumped on. Sure, my petty side says "well, they (support) had theirs for close to six years, now it's our (melee) turn", but in the spirit of fairness both sides should be getting some sort of improvement.

the only spell we have thats another job can't use is Refresh 2

Considering RDM borrows from other jobs, this is not surprising nor a bad thing.

This is the role RDM should of been in from the beginning the group buffer and the groups crowd control

You want to take us back to where we were at lv75 instead of letting our job move forward. I get that it's easier to get invited as support, but we've already had to put up with that since the cap was 75. I don't want RDM to go back to what it was then.

[saevel]

This is the role RDM should of been in from the beginning the group buffer and the groups crowd control

That's BRD and partially BLM (crowd control). At no point in FFXI's history did RDM ever get an aoe buff nor and aoe crowd control ability. The only party support ability RDM's ever had is Refresh, Haste and Cure IV. That's it, nothing else. WHM is the better support, BLM the better crowd control and BRD the better buffer. RDM's only got put into the party support role because WHM's had become scarce for XP pt's back in 04 and RDM was the next best thing.

SE needs to add new abilities and spells, buff out our enfeebling capacity and self buffing capacity, exactly as they stated they would.

[Kristal]

Impressive, never known Reflect to reflect AoE.

Don't apply logic to silly nonsense >_<