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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    So after the adjustment to Group 2 Stratagems...

    Did you change your merit setup at all?

    I went from having:
    5/5 Stormsurge
    5/5 Enlightenment

    to having:
    5/5 Stormsurge
    1/5 Enlightenment
    4/5 Equanimity

    But... Even with the new reduced stratagem cost, these merits still feel just as useless as before. Does anyone agree with me?
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    5/5 Stormsurge
    1/5 Enlightenment
    4/5 Tranquility

    Tranquility is going to be damned good after the Healing Magic adjustment, potentially a better choice for Cure Stratagem than Rapture.

    Waiting on the Enlightenment changes too, though I doubt SE can ever make Enlightenment worthwhile.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    5/5 Stormsurge
    1/5 Enlightenment
    4/5 Equanimity

    Didn't change mine at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    5/5 Stormsurge
    1/5 Enlightenment
    4/5 Tranquility

    Tranquility is going to be damned good after the Healing Magic adjustment, potentially a better choice for Cure Stratagem than Rapture.

    Waiting on the Enlightenment changes too, though I doubt SE can ever make Enlightenment worthwhile.
    I really wonder, because with Heka's Kalasiris giving so much cure potency, you can cap cure potency and enmity -.
    So is it really that good ?

    5/5 Stormsurge
    1/5 Enlightenment
    4/5 Equanimity

    I was 4/5 Equanimity, and just put it at 0 because i got a lot in voidwatch as a nuker, and had a bunch of erase to do, so Enlightenment 1/5 was not enough.
    I'm still wondering which combinaison is the best among merit T2.
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    Last edited by Yukichibi; 02-29-2012 at 10:27 PM.
    30/05/2004 PLD - PUP - COR - SCH

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    Still 5/5 Enlightenment and 5/5 Stormsurge. +10 to all stats (specifically enhancing magic) is very important for me, as I use Embrava quite frequently.
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    Frejan from Ragnarok, at your service.

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    I really wonder, because with Heka's Kalasiris giving so much cure potency, you can cap cure potency and enmity -.
    So is it really that good ?
    Tranquility and Equanimity pushed beyond the enmity cap from what I remember. Tranquility on Cure IV (which is going to be about 40% more potent after the adjustments) will effectively give it a similar, or even lower, enmity gain than Cure V/VI. Not to mention you have Regen V healing a small part as well. Rapture is becoming more and more like Divine Seal in my opinion.
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    Player Dantedmc's Avatar
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    I currently still have 5/5 stormsurge and enlightment because I don't know what I want to change to yet. I was thinking either 5/5 tranquility or equanimity for the -enm and 5/5 enlightenment for +10 enhancing skill. Or 5/5 tranquility and 4/5 equanmity and 1/5 enlightenment. I'm really thinking about dropping stormsurge because the only beneficial one for mages is hailstorm int and I use thunderstorm unless im in abyssea. For melee, I think they will be ok without my +7(12) to stats. It's really a hard choice though because these are all good merits for sch and i'm unsure of what I want at the moment.
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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    To be honest, all of the melees and 90% of the BLMs I've played with couldn't care less about whether or not I cast weather on them. Sometimes I feel like I'm just wasting effort making sure everyone's covered, and most of the time I feel like it doesn't make a difference anyways.

    Maybe I just play with terrible players, but stormsurge seems just as useless as the rest of the Group 2 merits. After thinking more about what Sotek said, tranquility might be the only useful one after the update.
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    1/5 Enlightenment, 1/5 Stormsurge, 5/5 Equanimity, which I already had before the change. All this changed is that I really spam Equanimity now instead of using it when I'm dangerously close to 100% enmity.

    The other two didn't matter enough to me to bother putting more points into either. I'm thinking to just get rid of Stormsurge completely and put the rest into Tranquility.
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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    The proposed Cure updates (as seen on the test server) have made me a very happy scholar. After seeing the new numbers for Cure IV, I think it's quite clear that the update will make Tranquility the must-have stratagem for SCH.
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