"Love thy wolf, more than thy neighbor." ~ W. Masters
"I'm sorry if you don't like me, but I'm not sorry for being who I am." ~ W. Masters
"There's nothing wrong with being wrong." ~ W. Masters
Quality of Life Ideas & More:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/43689-Quality-of-Life-Ideas-More
Yes, it is disrespectful of RDM for me to say that. But before the level cap increase past 75, WHM were not wanted for meripo (merit parties) because a RDM was more useful. So hopefully you can see where my distaste of RDM comes from. I started the game on WHM and will probably die on WHM. No one ever lets me come on anything but WHM because I am good at it (maybe I should start letting people die, I'm sure that would fix the problem).
"Love thy wolf, more than thy neighbor." ~ W. Masters
"I'm sorry if you don't like me, but I'm not sorry for being who I am." ~ W. Masters
"There's nothing wrong with being wrong." ~ W. Masters
Quality of Life Ideas & More:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/43689-Quality-of-Life-Ideas-More
"Love thy wolf, more than thy neighbor." ~ W. Masters
"I'm sorry if you don't like me, but I'm not sorry for being who I am." ~ W. Masters
"There's nothing wrong with being wrong." ~ W. Masters
Quality of Life Ideas & More:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/43689-Quality-of-Life-Ideas-More
Do you completely miss the point of "Natural Refresh?" Did you even read what I wrote? I am not talking about support jobs. If that was the only issue, there would be no point in posting this thread. I already /SCH and that defines the WHM job. It does not enhance it the way it should, it defines it. Allowing WHM to cast group Stoneskin, enhances the job. Casting a spell for 50% of the MP or casting time, that enhances the job. Sublimation even helps to enhance the job. BUT, without a natural refresh, Sublimation from SCH and Refresh from RDM no longer enhance the job, they define it.
The fact that your answer to my post is "then sub SCH" is the best you can do, proves my point entirely. /SCH does not enhance the job anymore, it defines it. Without /SCH, the job would be useless because MP would be gone in seconds.
"Love thy wolf, more than thy neighbor." ~ W. Masters
"I'm sorry if you don't like me, but I'm not sorry for being who I am." ~ W. Masters
"There's nothing wrong with being wrong." ~ W. Masters
Quality of Life Ideas & More:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/43689-Quality-of-Life-Ideas-More
I'm very much the same way...and I have let people die and they STILL want me as whm on everything...
also...
Dagan is Empy club ws...not all whm are going to go through all the bother to make an empy club (I'm up to that leech VNM, but can't get my clear abyssite to change..0/100 on it so far...and no one doing it on my server the last few weeks) I really only dd on solo on whm when running around doing quests, so I'm not in a huge hurry to get that club finished
Windhurst for life!
smn 90 / whm 90 / blu 90
blm drg and bst on the way up there
I am sorry Wolfe, I didn't mean no disrespect towards WHM. However, this should strengthen your cause, I hope:
Yes, RDMs were the first healers to be called upon in Meritpts. However, I was called (believe it or not) on WHM for Meritpts. Yes, I went as it, but it was a strain on my MP. Yes, I had BRDs in the PT. However, I didn't have any means of natural refreshing. I always panicked. I struggled. But, I did a good job, considering no one died.
So, yes a Natural Refresh for WHMs, please SE add it in for us.
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Red Mage, White Mage, and Samurai Princess.
90 RDM, 90 WHM, and 90 SAM - All well equiped.
By disregarding the subjob options, you kind of miss the mechanic that WHM benefits most from. That being that they don't have to sub WHM, which offers next to nothing in the job trait department, but get all the useful spells of a WHM and the utility of a decent subjob.
The game is not meant to be played without a subjob. If I want to remove status ailments on my RDM, I have to sub WHM. If I sub SCH, I am constantly having to flip through the Stratagem mechanic, nerfing half my spells and lowering reaction time that is essential to a RDM. Even then, I am still gonna not have Stona, and at the moment Viruna. I get some fun utility out of a BLM sub, and even a larger mana pool with some Auto-refresh from SMN. I see obvious benefits from a /NIN sub. I also don't get any WS (like WHM does) that restores huge chunks of mana despite the RDM's intended role as a melee-mage.
As a WHM main, I get all the WHM perks and a huge list of awesome subjobs. I mean, getting convert has to be a godsend to a WHM. As a RDM, I have to either blow my 10 min cooldown on Divine seal, or cast multiple cure IVs to bring myself up to white health again.
I honestly think you underestimate the value of your subjob options, as a healing class. You could be forced to sub WHM like everyone else that wants to heal, or have all of your offensive/utility spells completely cut off when you heal like a SCH.
What are whms doing nowadays that has them running out of MP and in a rage about refresh? I have a whm that is geared and I play it when necessary but the job has gotten to be so easy I'm not very passionate about it anymore, I'd rather heal on sch. Giving whm refresh I isn't a big deal to me if the demand is there. Allowing whm to learn it post level 80 wouldn't be game changing (I don't always whm but when I do I /sch). Auto refresh on the other hand is smn territory. (Yes pld has auto refresh as well, Lord knows they needed it!) The day whm gets Auto Refresh should be the day sch gets Cure V AND VI, and rdm gets -na spells without /whm or /sch. It shouldn't happen.
I haven't played WHM too much outside of Abyssea since I leveled it up, but when I have I've never really found the lack of 'natural' refresh to be a problem. I took the time to get the gear that gives Refresh, which gives +7 Refresh total and also made sure I got the Orison pantaloons +2 as soon as I could. Taking the time to get gear that enhanced my MP restoration has paid off more than complaining that WHM has no natural ability to get refresh. Also, I don't see how even just adding Auto Refresh would make you guys happy. On its own, its not that great. It gives 20 MP/minute. which means for it to have helped your MP abilities at all, 2 minutes and 6 seconds would have to go by just so you could get an extra Cure 3. You can rest for 18 seconds at Lv80+ and get that MP faster. So even if thats all WHM ended up getting from SE, you would still need your gear and support job abilities to enhance it so it could become worthwhile.
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