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  1. #111
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tptn937 View Post
    So what was the point of the enfeebling magic update if we still can't land sleep, break, silence, gravity on NMs?
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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  2. #112
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    Some PPL have been blind to that fact for some reason ^^

    But yea, the fix is sounding good. Just new some new unique enfeeble's to top it off.
    Which is why they'll balance it by not giving RDM anymore unique enfeebles.

    The fact of the matter is, Geo will get unique, un-resisted enfeebles, that while yes will stack no other job will get similar ones for them to stack.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Also, one of the aims is to make Red Mage’s enfeebling spells much more useful, and as a result of exploring this we decided to make it so that the immunobreak system is only for enfeebling magic skill.
    1. Is Immunobreak available to jobs without Enfeebling Magic Skill that sub RDM?
    2. Does actual enfeebling magic skill play a role in the amount of immunobreak gained for resisting?
    3. Will RDM get (unique) traits to boost immunobreak chance/amount?
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  4. #114
    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Okay, when I said make it enfeebling-magic based, I didn't mean the immunobreak should easily work in the low 400's, so that every fucking jack and jill mage job could fucking debuff anything worth a damn. This was to help Red Mages, remember?

    There is seriously no going back to to playing Red Mage for endgame purposes if SE doesn't put any unique, useful and worthwhile spells out soon, as well as make any NMs worth using enfeebling on. OR! SE could make it tougher to immunobreak so RDMs have an incentive to have the end-all be all top number debuffing skill required to immunobreak.

    I swear to god, I'm just tempted to learn how to program SE's new mechanics myself and help them get the right idea across. >.>
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 07-27-2012 at 12:59 PM.

  5. #115
    Player sweetidealism's Avatar
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    Please let the amount of resistance lowered through Immunobreak be dependent on high enfeebling magic skill and, to a lesser extent, INT/MND, and give Red Mage a Job Trait that increases their likelihood of causing an Immunobreak.

    Furthermore, I'd like to see one or two things added to Saboteur; perhaps "If the target has suffered an Immunobreak, the magic accuracy of the next enfeebling magic spell cast will be increased drastically," and/or "If the next enfeebling magic spell is resisted, the target will suffer a severe Immunobreak."

    These changes would help Red Mage truly take advantage of Immunobreak more than any other job.
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    Greetings!

    We received some feedback that enfeebling effects such as slow and paralyze have seemingly been ineffective for certain boss monsters whose normal attacks are AoE attacks. In order to bring out the full potential of enfeebling magic effects we would like to address this phenomenon. To start with we will be making adjustments during next week’s version update so that paralyze and killer effects are elicited.

    In regards to slow, we are still looking into this and need a bit more time due to the fact that the processes involving it are more complex.
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  7. #117
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    so it sounds like what you're saying is that paralyze and killer effects will be able to prevent WS like tp moves from being executed... ?
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  8. #118
    Player Tamarsamar's Avatar
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    So long as it applies ONLY to said monsters "whose normal attacks are AoE attacks," awesome! Keep up the good work!
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    Inb4 they accidentally make this affect player WS too and then don't fix it for 2 years.
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  10. #120
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    Their talking about how Ironclads and other monsters don't have regular attack rounds and instead their "aoe regular attacks" are job abilities. Previously Paralyze / Slow would do jack sh!t to those monsters, now Paralyze can proc on those aoe regular attacks though they don't have a mechanism to implement slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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