99 Empyrean Trials.

[macross]

Unfortunately it's more like, "Oh, that guy was stupid enough to waste time/gil upgrading to stage 2." Aftermath effects are pointless, etc, etc; it's been said a million times.



Is this serious? The devs think it's going to take (half of) empyrean users over 3 months to upgrade to 99? It's 60m gil... That's less than a single month of dynamis farming currency.

Assuming you can kill ADL with 12 people, that's 60 days of dynamis. If you can manage 2 kills per run, that's 30, but that's asking a lot for a 12 person group, and it would STILL take longer than upgrading an empyrean.

Come on guys... really?

60m gil won't buy you jack shit if there is nothing to buy. Find me 60 riftdross within 5 days of this post and I'll buy them off you for 60m. Actually I just need 46 more. In 5 days of dynamis, I can guarantee finishing a 95->99 relic. 60 ogre kills does not guarantee me anywhere near 60 riftdross. Also to find an ally with 60 stones ready to go kill for you will be impossible. Do you understand why empy trial is way harder now? People don't spam ogre and flan no more, there isn't much supply of dross/cinder now. Just like how you cannot go out and buy 5 umbrals on a whim regardless of how much gil you can throw around., it's pretty hard to buy 60 dross/cinder after the initial supply is gone. You can't just shout, buying 30000 alex, paying 300m, and expect to be done in a day.

They have numbers of how many 95's have been upgraded and how much dross/cinder have dropped. Prob going oh 100 riftdross dropped this month, and there's only 3 people with 95s, so 60 it is! What they don't account for is how people stop farming things once they are bored/finished with it.

[MarkovChain]

"Oh, nice that person has no life."

"Oh, nice that person is a manipulative con artist!"

"Oh, nice that person wasted ~5 BILLION gil."

"Oh, nice that could be fifty Stage 1 Relics."

"Oh, nice that person is a fucking idiot."

Oh man you are mad™ ->

You are by far one of the most smug bastards ive ever met on this forum. It's funny because you always say you don't white knight SE but you sure are quick to defend them every time.

You can say 51% is "technically" the majority, but it differently seems what they implied when they announced Stage 1 and Stage 2 has changed from now to then.

No it's not everyone (but you) know what maljority means.

60m gil won't buy you jack shit if there is nothing to buy. Find me 60 riftdross within 5 days of this post and I'll buy them off you for 60m.

There is supply don't worry me and mdk found 120 is bazars within 2 weeks, also when loged after the VU there were 5-6 people upgrading to 99. The best way to get them is to camp bazars in UJ et PJ at J¨midnights.

[wish12oz]

No it's not everyone (but you) know what maljority means.

This isn't English, and maljority isn't a word.
Seriously, I can't even figure out what you were trying to say, please come back and try again.

[Kysaiana]

I want to know why so many people are raging over 60 riftdross/cinder like they'll even get to the point it will affect them. There isn't enough HMP in circulation no matter how much gil you acquire for half of the empyreans at lvl 90 to upgrade to lvl 95 on any given server. There's probably a handful of people that have 95's already and they likely bought up 60 riftdross or riftcinder that was on the market long before the update went live.

The relic trial is stupid for anyone that doesn't have 12-17 people willing to fight an obnoxious NM 5+ times for X number of relic holders in their shell. Considering how easy it is to build a relic on your own these days I'm willing to bet that's a lot of relic holders.

PW is annoying to build pops for but considering how few Mythics exist at all, it's probably not that hard for a mythic holder to find people to help them kill it 3 times.

So there you go, all three trials are annoying, by design. Can we please stop having this back and forth between empyrean holder and relic holders say "waah my trial is harder than yours for x and y reason!"

I apologize if that was inflammatory, it's just getting really old seeing the same stupid arguments back and forth.

[Runespider]

I play this game a lot and consider myself somewhat hardcore. I have a relic (95) I created years ago and I have a few emps too that are all 90. I have completely opted out of even trying these new trials, as such I find it quite amusing and it doesn't really bother me how stupid and hard headed they are being.

I do find it amusing that a dev team can be so out of touch with its players and so amateurish at their jobs that they are basically making their players opt out of content lol They have no idea wtf they are doing honestly, the whole point of these is to make people want to chase the rabbit, not sit back, relax and let it run off. If they make timesinks and the vast majority of your target audience won't even attempt to work on it, they failed.

I think working on FFXIV before it failed rotted their brains, almost everything they add is pure and utter junk.

I like how they think people will look with adoration at glowing tards that did stage 2, as has been said I think it will be more like seeing people with a mentor flag (retard alert) and an embarassment.

[Arcon]

You are by far one of the most smug bastards ive ever met on this forum. It's funny because you always say you don't white knight SE but you sure are quick to defend them every time.

Point out where the hell I'm defending them. I'm not kidding, quote me. Your sense of entitlement is ridiculous because you seem to assume that you represent the core of anti-SE ideas. You think if I tell you that you're a moron I'm agreeing with SE? That I approve of this trial because I pointed out to you that your argument is retarded? Just because I disagree with them doesn't mean I have to agree with you. You think whenever I go against someone who is anti-SE that must mean I'm their asskisser, which in itself is a retarded assumption, but in this case I didn't even attack your anti-SE rambling, I attacked your intelligence, because you obviously lack the required reading comprehension of a first grader if you don't know what the fucking word "majority" means.

You can say 51% is "technically" the majority, but it differently seems what they implied when they announced Stage 1 and Stage 2 has changed from now to then.

The planned difficulty level for the corresponding Magian upgrade trials will be such that a majority of players with the appropriate level 95 equipment will likely be able to complete them.

For the mentally challenged:
majority of players = roughly more than half
will be able to = will be in a position that they can defeat ADL semi-regularly
likely = probably

They said so from the start. And since they announced the 5 Umbral Marrows, you've known what they meant by it. You act so fucking surprised about this now, as if they suddenly came up from behind you and fucked you up the ass. They didn't get your hopes up, you did it yourself. Which is pretty fucking ironic considering your anti-SE streak. If you're really convinced they're so incapable, then you shouldn't have trusted them in the first place.

The trial might be unfair, stage 2 might be completely retarded. None of that changes the fact that you're an idiot.

[Dragoy]

Time consumed == Difficulty

I just can't quite see it, sorry. =/
I'm sure there are other methods of making things challenging than put a 'time-sink' on it.

Or is it... PS2-limitations?
A-haha... ha...

And that's all I'm going to touch on this borderline hilarious topic. \ö/
Have fun~

[newmonkey]

Marc i told you sent me a mule with the money you need for the dross and i'll get you them today i'd bring them to you but my xfer isn't up for 2 weeks

[macross]

I'm sure in 2 weeks i'll still have made little progress hehe.

[Trisscar]

Mis post, sorry.