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  1. #11
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    ^ im sure you and one other guy will be pleased.

    but seriously...where is the real SMn update?
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  2. #12
    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Same as above

    i have 5/5 elemental mp cost

    why? pretty much to be able to have light ele out for buffs/cures
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    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
    Server : Ragnarök
    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Player Lukikii's Avatar
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    Lukikii
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    From the census last year, http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/3.html, you can see how many people merit Elemental MP cost. I'm not one of them, and this adjustment will not make me change my merits. With all the other things that could be done to better SMN, this isn't one of them.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by leorez View Post
    ^ im sure you and one other guy will be pleased.

    but seriously...where is the real SMn update?
    If you really believe SE will update the cost without updating the power of these pets then I have news for you...

    You are probably right.
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  5. #15
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    SMN Lv 99
    The MP cost isn't why spirits are terrible. it's everything about them combined. low HP, terrible stats, no control over them, casts spells you dont want them to cast,

    About the only thing making spirits cheaper does is increase the net MP return on siphon slightly.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The MP cost isn't why spirits are terrible. it's everything about them combined. low HP, terrible stats, no control over them, casts spells you dont want them to cast,

    About the only thing making spirits cheaper does is increase the net MP return on siphon slightly.
    I'm thinking a pet: MAB staff would disagree.
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  7. #17
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    SMN Lv 99
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/gui...nsus/10/3.html

    As previously stated 3-4% of Summoners actually use this option according to the last census.

    So what, basically one Summoner per server will get a use out of this?
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The MP cost isn't why spirits are terrible. it's everything about them combined. low HP, terrible stats, no control over them, casts spells you dont want them to cast,

    About the only thing making spirits cheaper does is increase the net MP return on siphon slightly.
    pretty much, the lack of control being the major throw away here. Its like they want people to use them, but they refuse to fix them.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    I have 4 merits left in spirit perp costs. It all gets down to the fundamental stat of SMN: mp. Let's
    see what they do to the spirits themselves, then determine the value. Less cost = better gear choice.
    It's almost funny you having elemental mp cost merits was completely expected.
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  10. #20
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith
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    I was pissed about the Paladin update.

    Then I saw the Summoner update.

    I'm still pissed about the Paladin update, but I feel a deep sorrow for Summoner's everywhere.

    And I'm not a summoner....
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