Requiescat on PLD

[Alerith]

For me, Requiescat is slightly under Vorpal Blade. Vorpal Blade always performs nicely when it crits, and Requiescat is decent damage on a consistent basis.

That being said, Vorpal Blade (if you don't have CDC) is going to be your better option unless you're trying to bypass physical defenses or fighting elementals.

It has it's uses, but it's a very situational WS.

[Motenten]

Ok, for the Req/Vorpal comparison, this is what I have set up:

Shamshir +3 (str)/shield (ie: no Almace, shield of no particular DD benefit)

Str is a mod for Vorpal, not Reqs, so this should favor Vorpal slightly.

Vorpal gear set:

Flame Sachet
Mekira-oto +1
Gorget
Brutal
Vulcan (3 str)
Twilight
Creed +2
Rajas
Pyrosoul
Atheling
Anguinus (beir +1 would be better for this particular target, but not sure you want to use in general)
Ogier
Perle

Str +71, Att +100, Acc +70 (capped acc), Skill +7


Reqs gear set:

Aqua Sachet
Twilight
Aife's
Brutal
Neptune (3 mnd)
Twilight
Valor +2
Aquasoul
Tjukurrpa
Atheling
Cascade
Ogier
Ogier

Mnd +68, Att +85, Acc +45 (capped acc), Skill +5



Set up vs fake Qilin target (ie: moderately difficult mob, high defense, etc). Various stats:

cRatio:
Vorpal: 1.2869
Reqs: 0.9278

fStr:
Vorpal: +12
Reqs: +3

Crit rate:
Vorpal is floored.
Reqs doesn't matter

Final base damage:
Vorpal: 111
Reqs: 187


Average damage:
Vorpal: 726
Reqs: 747


Granted the above are about as optimal of gear sets as I can make. If I get rid of the Ogier, dropped the Mekira to the NQ, and allow for Valor+2 hands/legs and other gear that either I personally already have or can be readily bought on the AH, average is 698 Vorpal to 712 Reqs.

Without a specialized build they'll probably end up about tied.

[Aeonk]

Ok, for the Req/Vorpal comparison, this is what I have set up:

Shamshir +3 (str)/shield (ie: no Almace, shield of no particular DD benefit)

Str is a mod for Vorpal, not Reqs, so this should favor Vorpal slightly.

Vorpal gear set:

Flame Sachet
Mekira-oto +1
Gorget
Brutal
Vulcan (3 str)
Twilight
Creed +2
Rajas
Pyrosoul
Atheling
Anguinus (beir +1 would be better for this particular target, but not sure you want to use in general)
Ogier
Perle

Str +71, Att +100, Acc +70 (capped acc), Skill +7


Reqs gear set:

Aqua Sachet
Twilight
Aife's
Brutal
Neptune (3 mnd)
Twilight
Valor +2
Aquasoul
Tjukurrpa
Atheling
Cascade
Ogier
Ogier

Mnd +68, Att +85, Acc +45 (capped acc), Skill +5



Set up vs fake Qilin target (ie: moderately difficult mob, high defense, etc). Various stats:

cRatio:
Vorpal: 1.2869
Reqs: 0.9278

fStr:
Vorpal: +12
Reqs: +3

Crit rate:
Vorpal is floored.
Reqs doesn't matter

Final base damage:
Vorpal: 111
Reqs: 187


Average damage:
Vorpal: 726
Reqs: 747


Granted the above are about as optimal of gear sets as I can make. If I get rid of the Ogier, dropped the Mekira to the NQ, and allow for Valor+2 hands/legs and other gear that either I personally already have or can be readily bought on the AH, average is 698 Vorpal to 712 Reqs.

Without a specialized build they'll probably end up about tied.

Wouldn't a Rancor collar be better for vorpal than the sea gorget?

[Motenten]

Wouldn't a Rancor collar be better for vorpal than the sea gorget?

Woops, yep. Raises max build to 735, and NQ build to 706.

[saevel]

How would the acc / atk from +skill off Supa compare to the +3 STR ?

Just a question. It confirms that Vorpal and Req are about even, with Vorpal being favored for criticals. Does adding another hit (assuming some /NIN or /DNC setups) change anything, just for the lulz.

[Greatguardian]

I'd imagine going from 5 fTP to 6 fTP would be a 20% damage increase for Req, and going from 4 fTP to 5 fTP would be a 25% damage increase for Vorpal assuming that the offhand sword has the same damage rating as the mainhand.

Everything else like attack, acc, etc would just come out in the averaging wash and depend on what stats you assign to the offhand sword.

[Motenten]

With Joyeuse, HQ build (what I last left it on):
Vorpal: 875
Reqs: 903

With a second str Shamshir:
Vorpal: 985
Reqs: 985

[Hokuten85]

So basically, what everyone is saying is that this WS is junk for all practical purposes. It seems like it only becomes worth while on weaker mobs and even then it's only slightly a head. I'm pretty sure putting the same effort into gearing for Sanguine Blade would put it's damage way a head for weaker mob scenarios...and it drains HP.

I don't see any scenario's where this WS is worth it.

[Babekeke]

How would the MND ToM sword play out on requiescat vs the STR one? I realise that there's a lot of DPS lost from 11 STR and 22 att, but in something like VW with a lot of AOE spam the MDB would surely come in handy.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I have MDB Shikargar anywhere from 4-15% behind assuming uncapped attack.