The next nerf is gonna force all wars to de-level to 30 while sams get a buff to level 255
The next nerf is gonna force all wars to de-level to 30 while sams get a buff to level 255
I've won dozens of level 95 VWs with 1 Ukon in 10 minutes or less. Any Relic/Emp/Mythic DD rips these things apart as long as you keep procing. I think you, like a ton of people, have an inflated idea of the power of an Ukon. They don't spam 5k WSs they spam 2k-3k WSs and occasionally blast out a beast. Yes Ukon WARs were easily #1 in DD power but it wasn't by some outrageous margin. Maybe a very slight nerf to the WS was in order but not a 15% crit rate cut.
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I am sure there is some truth in this. The reason the perception is out there though is mostly through players smack talk, posted parses, memes like "should have been a ukon" on the BG finished emp. thread. Also linkshell leaders disbanding at Qilin when the Ukon war leaves, shouting that they seeking a war only, etc. I believe a parse was shown recently where the Ukon war did 80% more damage than anyone else, the damage calculator that people use had war doing 50% more damage over drk a while ago, etc etc. Apparently someone in charge at SE had the same perception with this nerf.
I do understand though that nerfs are not the way to go. It's stupid to do it after a year, should have been adjusted within a couple weeks of coming out, or other jobs brought up a bit in this past year. SE had numerous chances to even things out and all they did was buff the hell out of SAM, like the old days. This company has the worst sense of balance.
15% is total murder. Hey who still wants to farm a lv95 and 99 Ukon? Step right up. I bet my raging rushes can beat my future Ukko's Fury damage. Well okay that might be pushing it, I don't know. I guess the aftermath is still pretty hot to be worth the effort.
I'm all for balance even if it makes me weaker. I'm all about fair play. But not when butchering jobs are involved. This isn't a nerf. This is declared war on the warrior job. It just joined the club with KC DRK, RDM, and RNG as honorary members. MNK got hit with the WS nerf but how long before it catches more and joins the war club, too? I know for a fact SAM found the immunity idol so they're safe forever.
Boy I'm so going to eat my words if they ever do dial SAM back.
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Ukko's is still well out in front of RR by more than 15%. Apparently Ukon now has latent effect: Convert molehill to mountain.
Too much boo hoo for still having pew pew imo
Twash - is powerful if used correctly. Stacking with SA / TA & DNC can force crit. It is also a single handed weapon so you cannot expect to push the same amount of damage with a dagger as you can a great axe.
Redem - DRK has Cada, which can be farmed in much less time and deal quite a decent amount of damage. DRK is also a hybrid job, therefore should not excel in both abilities it has. (Deal damage & cast dark magic). Hybrids are good for more things, but excel in none.
Rhol - DRG has Drakesbane - and pretty much every DRG will tell you they are happy with it. If you ask me, Calm Torm is the best option they could have given DRG. A Wheeling Thrust +1, especially with these heavy defence VW mobs @99, I am sure they would be pushing out some ok numbers. Drakesbane didn't need to be replaced in my opinion. Once again, they are also a hybrid (ability to DD, heal, support, shed hate etc). Once again, can do more stuff - but excels in none.
Last thing, DRG / DRK's should have known what they were levelling into before levelling / playing it. DRK & DRG should never be as powerful as WAR or MNK as there needs to be a large difference between "hybrids" and "specialists".
MNK & WAR are DD's in it's purest form. All of their job abilities are related to dealing / taking damage. (Dealing mainly, with a few defensive options for when they do out-dd other jobs). All the other "DD's" are what I would consider hybrids.
Therefore WAR & MNK need to be on top of the pyramid for DD otherwise that would be amongst the many posts using the word thrown around a lot lately - "unbalanced".
*edit* forgot quotes but this was replying to the bunch of people saying "then why aren't the other weapons on glav / chlor path as powerful".....
This sir/madaam, is more then likely your major reason.
Last edited by Alderin; 12-26-2011 at 09:30 PM.
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