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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroganashi View Post
    NIN is the best Tank for a NON BLM Enemy since Shadows are wiped by "-AGA" spells it is a BIG BIG Weakness of us, Ninjas.

    However NIN are also best Tanks 'cuz of our Evasion Bonus and Armor, Even tho it could be PAR with THF's but it is only 10 Less skill 2nd BEST EVA Job in GAME

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    NIN/DNC is nice to tank because it can "Violent Flourish" the "-AGA" the BLM Mobs do, not 100% Stun as any DNC can tell you, but it works.

    for Holding Enmity, CAP Haste (26%) and Dual Wield (50~56%) and Weapon Skill Strong and True.

    I hope this have helped some new Ninjas looking for GOOD Advice, Peace
    BLM's arnt the only one Mobs which can and will do AoE's
    Whm's cant cast Diaga or rdms?
    never fighted any Mobs like Moblins which can do a AoE move?
    just 2 examples for you!

    La Vaule (S) - Falsespinner Bhudbrodd
    such a nice NM for you doing AoE moves having a High Counter rate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Unless mages pull hate and the mob pulls away. Provoke is instant, running after it to hit it takes time. Which was my point earlier.
    Attack faster and you won't have that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Attack faster and you won't have that problem.
    Why not? Are you saying to hit it before it moves out of range? Even at capped delay reduction it'll still take you > 1s between your melee rounds, time which the mob has to run away.
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    Unlock targeting and run ahead of it. Better than losing 2.033898 seconds worth of attack around with provoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Unlock targeting and run ahead of it. Better than losing 2.033898 seconds worth of attack around with provoke.
    Maybe we're talking about different things, but in the scenario that plays in my head, you can't run ahead of a mob that's fleeing from you. The time it would take you to catch up (assuming mages are out of AoE range, if not the may as well be standing within melee range) is probably more than 2.033898 seconds.
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    Chasing after a mob while locked onto it will never work because you will always lag behind it. Unless the mob has enhanced speed and you don't you can typically hit it sooner by unlocking and attempting to run ahead of it (when your model is 'overtaking' the monster's 'body').
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kriegsgott View Post
    BLM's arnt the only one Mobs which can and will do AoE's
    Whm's cant cast Diaga or rdms?
    never fighted any Mobs like Moblins which can do a AoE move?
    just 2 examples for you!

    La Vaule (S) - Falsespinner Bhudbrodd
    such a nice NM for you doing AoE moves having a High Counter rate
    True, however the mobs that spam AOE Magic are the problem, you are right about WHM and RDM and BRD's but BLM are the ones that spam the most AOE and Most powerful ones too, which is why I mention them, but thanks for Correcting me.
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    Haha... NIN tank can be more beneficial than PLD in situations... as well as PLD over NIN. Depends on the player, and his skill, the gear he uses and how he tanks a mob. Someone said about NIN sucks on BLM type NM's isnt true. There are ways to get your -MDT gear up pretty high and having a good stunner always helps =).
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    You say voke is useless but... what about pre-level 80+ when everyone isn't hitting hate cap?


    This is a *tanking* thread, and people still have to tank when levelling their subjobs or, say, getting their job to level 60 or something. Would it still be useless even in that context?
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    Less voking more swinging.
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