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Thread: DNC tanking

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    Player browolf's Avatar
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    DNC tanking

    Don't see many dnc tanking, ppl usually go with thf or nin, but if you can't get those dnc do it good with the right gear.
    what i use is

    eva gear
    kila+3 evasion
    parazonium+3 oat2-4

    rr, gh, siren shadow atma

    between paraz and atma I get a high multi-attack rate with high crit rate
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    The reason why not many DNC tank inside Abyssea is simple - there's better jobs at it.

    MNK for blue staggers, NIN for red staggers, WAR for blue and red, THF for TH. That's also why SAM or DRG don't tank, even though they can survive just as well with a WHM and do a lot more damage.

    Evasion setup will probably only gimp your damage and not be required, unless you only have non-WHM support (or no support, although then I wouldn't call it tanking, but soloing).
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    Anything can tank in abyssea, moving forward the only thing that will be able to tank are heavy DD (with temps) or pld.
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    DNC is ok but could be better indeed if they made it have more EVA+
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    More eva would have been nice, DNC can take hits though with Fan Dance if they do and don't mind not being able to use sambas.
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    No Dancer should mind not being able to use Sambas. I personally hate Tanking or gearing for Evasion on my Dancer, but if it comes right down to it, I'll pop Fan Dance and sit there throwing Waltz bombs til we get the main tank back up.
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    Dnc has tons of evasion. evasion is > evasion skill. And we get many tiers of evasion bonus in addition to the merits on closed position. In fact 90% of the time i see DNCs overkilling their eva and killing the mob waaay slower than they should be. When i solo on dnc in aby i almost always wear full DD gear w/ DD atmas.

    Sure thf can kill us on max evasion, but what content really needs that much evasion? As said previously dnc also has other tools like fan dance and self cures that greatly improve our tanking ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvinta View Post
    No Dancer should mind not being able to use Sambas. I personally hate Tanking or gearing for Evasion on my Dancer, but if it comes right down to it, I'll pop Fan Dance and sit there throwing Waltz bombs til we get the main tank back up.
    Deadvinta, where'd you get that signature image?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonlord View Post
    Dnc has tons of evasion. evasion is > evasion skill. And we get many tiers of evasion bonus in addition to the merits on closed position. In fact 90% of the time i see DNCs overkilling their eva and killing the mob waaay slower than they should be. When i solo on dnc in aby i almost always wear full DD gear w/ DD atmas.
    There was a huge debate a couple years back that items which gave Evasion Skill (like the Evasion Torque) were superior to items that gave straight Evasion (like the Emperor Hairpin).

    Did that debate ever get settled with some solid math?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sappho View Post
    There was a huge debate a couple years back that items which gave Evasion Skill (like the Evasion Torque) were superior to items that gave straight Evasion (like the Emperor Hairpin).

    Did that debate ever get settled with some solid math?
    Yes, Evasion skill = Evasion <= 200, after that 1 Evasion skill = 0.9 Evasion. In any case, Evasion > Evasion skill.
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