thunderstorm and thunder II level adjustment?

[Cabalabob]

is there any plans to adjust the level of thunderstorm and thunder II? seems random that they are the only two left off the elemental line of sch spells when /sch.

not too bothered about thunder II, it's the storm spell that's important but i suppose it's just on the same principle.

main sch will still have the light and dark storm spells over /sch, just seems off that thunder is the only element left off of /sch

[Jamesy]

i feel se's response and the response of most main scholars would be.... be happy with what you got. since we are losing our helices at 99 to /sub

[Cabalabob]

but they're gonna be terrible, shorter duration etc. storm spells actually have a use weather: -perp gear, weather bonus to spells i'd give up helices for thunderstorm any day

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Yeah, can I has it! Who needs unique jobsssssssssssssssssssssssss.

[Cabalabob]

main sch gets stormsurge klimaform enhanced by af3 twilight cape and ele obis

Yeah, can I has it! Who needs unique jobsssssssssssssssssssssssss.

first: lol sch... unique... second: /sch already get the other 5 stormspells how is letting it have the thunder one make sch any less unique?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

main sch gets stormsurge klimaform enhanced by af3 twilight cape and ele obis



first: lol sch... unique... second: /sch already get the other 5 stormspells how is letting it have the thunder one make sch any less unique?

By the same logic what is the point of only giving jobs Protect II when the highest tier is V. Come on, get real. Changing the weather is one of the few unique spells they have left now SE have given their triggers away. Personally I don't think any job should get storm spells other than SCH and they should have been blocked or the levels put higher.

The only reason you want it is for SMN's suit and quite frankly that is a lol reason. What's next "Aurorastorm/Voidstorm I can has this"

Jobs /SCH get the bonus of "SOME" storm spells, this is the was it works for ALL jobs. You get some of their abilities, but NOT all of 'em.

[Einalem]

In theoretical fantasy land::: you know, I wouldn't mind them swapping weather and helices level wise if they do something awesome for weather effects worth getting main SCH for them.

[Sotek]

Twilight Cape is Scholar unique? Elemental Obis are Scholar unique? Empyrean feet are, but they enhance Klimaform, and to my knowledge only effects the Scholar, no reason to invite a Scholar there. Stormsurge is so lawlsworthy that I feel the need to slap you with a bass.
Better solution: Knock Storm spells up some levels so Sandstorm is a Lv.50 spell. Problem solved, you no longer have to worry about having an incomplete spell line.

How would letting Thunderstorm go make Scholar any less unique? It wouldn't. Is it one of the handful of remaining unique (and useful) spells Scholar has left? Yes, very much so. It doesn't make Scholar unique but it's damn sure one of the remaining few reasons to even invite a Scholar outside you know, a 2Hr spell which will no doubt be rendered worthless when SE gives everyone Embrava level 2Hrs. So no, you can't have it. When having a Storm spell from a Scholar actually has a worthwhile benefit (Stormsurge: +3% weather effect per merit, exactly the same effect as Twilight Cape, technically allowing for triple weather), we can talk about giving the weather buff of the strongest element in the game. But SE seems to either out right ignore suggestions or do the opposite of what I say, so enjoy getting Thunderstorm, Voidstorm and Aurorastorm in February.

[OuShiroHeart]

I do not think they care about where support job magic lines end.
/blm stops with Aeroga II (Aero II Lv75)
/rdm stops with Aero II (Stone II Lv75) and with Protect III/Shell II (Protect II/Shell II Lv75)
/whm stops with Cure IV/Curaga II and also Protect(ra) III/Shell(ra) II (Cure III/Curaga II, Protect(ra) II/Shell(ra) II Lv75)
/drk stops with Water II (Thunder and Absorb-Agi Lv75)
I could continue, but the point is that support job spell lines are a bonus, not a right. There is no reason to adjust Sch spell levels just so that /sch can finish the spell line

[Merton9999]

I agree there's no reason to do this for completeness but it has happened before I think. When Curing Waltz III(?) level was lowered was it not specifically stated that they did it to benefit /DNC?

I have no problem with storm spells being lowered so that /SCH can get all of them, provided that SCH specific storm usage is significantly buffed at the same time. Stormsurge needs a boost to be in line with boost and gain potency, and we need a JA that elevates storms to tier 2, with a timer that allows it to be maintained on 2-3 people. If something similar isn't done I'd honestly prefer Sotek's suggestion of starting storms at level 50. Well, actually Sandstorm at 49. I need my movement speed on RDM and WHM!