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  1. #141
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    The enhances effect duration bonus effect on cape + feet is transferred yes, full set bonus no because that's not how it works. Simple pasa.
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    The enhances effect duration bonus effect on cape + feet is transferred yes, full set bonus no because that's not how it works. Simple pasa.

    you sure about that?
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Estoqueur's_Armor_%2B2_Set
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  3. #143
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    Very sure. Set bonus only works when casting on others. If you're accessioning a self-target spell, then only Cape+Feet will transfer to the other players in AoE.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaness View Post
    I'm sorry you are right, I am a sch main and barely uses /sch or accession as sub....at all.
    But that revelation makes the whole accession + haste/temper/gain-spells/enspells even worse.

    So the rest of my built isnt exacly built on Incorrect since it was made to show how accession + the new buffs you guys asking, would make you even more of an enhancing bot.
    I still don't see how casting 2 spells as that's the most you can under Accession once at the minimum recast of 3 minutes makes you more an enhancing bot than casting 2 spells 5 times each every 3 minutes minimum.
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  5. #145
    Player tyrantsyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Very sure. Set bonus only works when casting on others. If you're accessioning a self-target spell, then only Cape+Feet will transfer to the other players in AoE.
    Ah yea okay.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    I still don't see how casting 2 spells as that's the most you can under Accession once at the minimum recast of 3 minutes makes you more an enhancing bot than casting 2 spells 5 times each every 3 minutes minimum.

    So Accession -> temper
    Accession -> gain-str
    haste * X
    Refresh * X

    Sound right?
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  7. #147
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    I'd rather just Accession Temper, leave a strat open for dispelled buffs/situational uses, and let the WHM use Boost-MND. People don't actually let Red Mages watch a party full of melees on their own without a real healer there, do they?
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  8. #148
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    I could never understand the other things, but I still think that Temper and Enspells at least made some sense why they were not able to be cast on others or made AoE, since they are exclusively for boosting the melee capability of the Red Mage.

    You can say that Red Mage is a bad melee all you want and maybe you'd even be right, but they are what SE tried to give to Red Mage for its melee side, and not for enhancing others.

    On the rest, I'll say it again. Gain-STAT? WHM can, so whynot RDM? Refresh II? BRD can, why not RDM? Haste? WHM and RDM should be able to with a unique spell, and Haste itself should be Accessionable.
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  9. #149
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I'd rather just Accession Temper, leave a strat open for dispelled buffs/situational uses, and let the WHM use Boost-MND. People don't actually let Red Mages watch a party full of melees on their own without a real healer there, do they?
    Just checking. So anybody want to predict what crap they are going to add?
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  10. #150
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    Native Dual Wield 2.

    Many, many lulz would be had.
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