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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Dynamis coins drop mechanics

    They can drop 4 coins on nightmare mobs, one is 100% the other 3 are independant.

    If p is the probablility for one coin to drop for any slot then you easily get that

    proba of 1 coin is : 3*p^2-p^3+1-3*p
    proba of 2 coins is : -6*p^2+3*p^3+3*p
    proba of 3 coins is : -3*p^3+3*p^2
    proba of 4 coins is : p^3
    average : 3*p+1

    This matches the data with p~=0.64

    Data

    Em & tough raptors in Qufim
    Treasure hunter 6

    Nightmare Kraken (Killed 336 times with TH ??)
    Dropped 0 items 1 times ( 0.30 %)
    Dropped 1 items 13 times ( 3.87 %)
    Dropped 2 items 73 times ( 21.73 %)
    Dropped 3 items 147 times ( 43.75 %)
    Dropped 4 items 102 times ( 30.36 %)

    Nightmare Raptor (Killed 429 times with TH ??)
    Dropped 0 items 1 times ( 0.23 %)
    Dropped 1 items 26 times ( 6.06 %)
    Dropped 2 items 99 times ( 23.08 %)
    Dropped 3 items 193 times ( 44.99 %)
    Dropped 4 items 110 times ( 25.64 %)

    Nightmare Snoll (Killed 605 times with TH ??)

    Dropped 1 items 27 times ( 4.46 %)
    Dropped 2 items 147 times ( 24.30 %)
    Dropped 3 items 261 times ( 43.14 %)
    Dropped 4 items 162 times ( 26.78 %)

    When mixing all 3 mobs you get

    1 coin := 0.04817518248
    2 coins := 0.2328467153
    3 coins := 0.4386861314
    4 coins := 0.2729927007
    average := 2.921897810
    All value match for p ~ 0.64-0.65
    Secondly the drop table of each mob matches for this value.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 11-24-2011 at 05:23 PM.

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    Player Ihnako's Avatar
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    Did you realized that this thing is a game and game mechanics would be best discussed at bluegartr or similar sites?
    At least I'm not interested in it and what you found out was allready discussed at the above mentioned sites.
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    Naw, his analysis is new as far as I know. I've never bothered doing a controlled test where I proc absolutely 100% of the monsters and TH absolutely 100% of them. Also, he's banned from BG.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihnako View Post
    Did you realized that this thing is a game and game mechanics would be best discussed at bluegartr or similar sites?
    At least I'm not interested in it and what you found out was allready discussed at the above mentioned sites.
    Looks like useful data to me. Why are you so mad all the time?
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    Player Retsujo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihnako View Post
    Did you realized that this thing is a game and game mechanics would be best discussed at bluegartr or similar sites?
    At least I'm not interested in it and what you found out was allready discussed at the above mentioned sites.
    Someone must be forcing you to read every thread and comment on them with your opinion or something.
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    Through the confinement of Valefor I found myself in the depths of Hades. It was there that I was thrown into Cerberus' Den. Only through Carbuncle's light could I find my way.

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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsujo View Post
    Someone must be forcing you to read every thread and comment on them with your opinion or something.
    It's me, I need post count competition.
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    good info I'd say
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    Player Ihnako's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    It's me, I need post count competition.
    Yes it's a post count competition.
    And I'm also a person who says when people are pround to brag of facts/information they had certainly read on different sites and sell those facts/information as their work.
    I also write a line in case things are obviously not thought till the end esp. those threads where people selfishly asks for different kinds of service #1 SE won't implement and #2 are game breaking in many ways.

    If you don't like what I have to say - just don't read it.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihnako View Post
    Yes it's a post count competition.
    And I'm also a person who says when people are pround to brag of facts/information they had certainly read on different sites and sell those facts/information as their work.
    I also write a line in case things are obviously not thought till the end esp. those threads where people selfishly asks for different kinds of service #1 SE won't implement and #2 are game breaking in many ways.

    If you don't like what I have to say - just don't read it.

    1) Proof that he plagiarized this, please post links. Otherwise you are a liar.

    2) LOL @ you talking down on him for bragging while simultaneously trying to up your post count so that you can brag.

    3) You have no right to tell people what they can and can't request / get from SE. Furthermore, you are obnoxious, and inflammatory in almost every post you make. No one care what you think.

    4) This is useful and important information regardless of the source. Get over it.
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    I'm not realy bragging. 1900 of my posts were from when the servers were down and I was bored as hell. I had to play something.
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