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    Gravity II

    Really?

    This is an utterly silly design choice.

    If it sticks on NMs then they should have just removed the immunities associated with Gravity instead of bothering with a second tier.

    If it doesn't stick on NMs then it has added absolutely nothing to the game.

    If it sticks on NMs but only applies the evasion down effect, then it is also time wasted because they could have just made the first tier work like that.

    A second tier of Gravity is absolutely unnecessary.
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    SE has a knack for underplaying cool stuff. Remember how we moaned about En2 spells and Composure? Now they are a melee RDM's best friend.

    Not saying this won't suck, but I'm willing to wait until we see it used practically before completely writing it off.
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    What? En2 spells sucked on release, currently suck, and unless a miracle happens, will suck.

    No one is inviting Rdms based on its melee potential.

    At least gravity II has a short recast compared to I ... it's definitely not going to do much for Rdm atm, now I can just hope on new merit spells/abilities.
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    You're assuming this doesn't have a much higher evasion-down effect than Gravity's 10.
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    wow complaining already? I don't mean to start a flame war, cuz honestly I don't care enough to, but can't you at least try to see the benefits/potential of a spell or ability before knocking it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    You're assuming this doesn't have a much higher evasion-down effect than Gravity's 10.
    Evasion down alone isn't going to make Rdm much more viable than it already is. The weight effect is superfluous for most NMs you'd bring more than a Rdm and another kiter to since you either don't need to kite it or kiting it is impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    You're assuming this doesn't have a much higher evasion-down effect than Gravity's 10.
    Accuracy caps. If the DDs are having trouble hitting something they'll just switch to pizza or sushi anyway.

    I fail to see what Gravity II could possibly add to our toolbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Accuracy caps. If the DDs are having trouble hitting something they'll just switch to pizza or sushi anyway.

    I fail to see what Gravity II could possibly add to our toolbag.
    Lets assume it works on all NM's and that only the Movement Speed reduction is removed from the spell on those that resist.

    It doesn't take away from our toolbag either. Will it fix RDM enfeebling? No! will it make RDM enfeebling worse? No!

    PS. I doubt most of today's players can cap accuracy on VoidWatch mobs or potentially any new ones SE brings out.
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    Gravity is useless except for movement speed down, SE since nerfed it by making most NM's to resist it out right.

    If we are talking a large evasion down effect that sticks regardless then it does have its positives, 30 Evade down would be a 15% increase to melee's hit. That is the difference between meat or sushi. It has that going for it. Even a 10% change is a significant boost to this. But I am not one who speculates much. SE is an expert at ruining things. They screwed up Enspell II's, they have neglected our healing issues (Again), and they offered a spell who's current face value is useless, a spell that will never be used because my BLM/RDM will be the same damn job and offer way more. My SCH/RDM, My BRD/RDM.

    Thanks for the nod SE.
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    Maybe Gravity II will have niche uses if the Evasion down effect is -30 or -40 and no Notorious Monster is immune or extremely resistant. Of course, the same high difficulty Notorious Monsters on which melee have uncapped accuracy even with pizza +1 are the ones most likely to be resistant or immune. Also, melee will gain 20 accuracy just from the skill gain that comes with going from 95 to 99. Will upcoming Notorious Monsters in Voidwatch and such have more evasion than the current high evasion stuffs?

    I can definitely see why people are pessimistic about this spell.
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