Vulcan's vs. Jupiter's staff (bow)

[Alderin]

Ok this question is for the Gandiva users. I know Vulcan's is better for gun due to fire affinity however my question is this -

Why do so many (if not everyone) I see with Gandiva use Vulcan's over Jupiter's staff?

We are basically looking at +10 R.Attk vs. 15% Crit Hit Rate.

On paper (as I am yet to parse this) Jupiter's with fairly standard gear will increase DPS by about 10%. If we are talking purely overall bonus, vulcan's staff offers (from my terribly rough math) a ~1.3% boost in R.Attk for a lvl 90 RNG (Due to a lvl 90 Hume RNG having about ~820 R.Attk). Yet Jupiter's offers a solid 15% boost in crit hit rate.

So in *theory* Jupiter's is a stupidly overpowering main hand boost compared to Vulcan's..

What am I missing that Vulcan staff users know about?

[Alkalinehoe]

What am I missing that Vulcan staff users know about?

That Jupiter's Crit rate affects only the staff.

[Annahya]

That Jupiter's Crit rate affects only the staff.

Wow - I am fairly new to RNG myself, and was unaware this distinction existed. Is it specific to certain gear, or does Critical Hit Rate never apply to ranged attacks?

I was looking for support for this, but all I could find was a discussion entry on FFXIclopedia stating that it was unlikely that it affected ranged attacks (citing examples of a couple other items).

If this is the case, is it all +CritRate sources, not just gear? When we set RR are we only getting the +CritDamage from it?

Thanks in advance for any answers, clarification or evidence.

[Alderin]

Nevermind! case closed. Cheers for enlightening me.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Oneiros knife and augmented Yataghans are also an option, assuming not /sam and/or using Hasso/TE.

[esoR]

crit rate on weapons only effects that weapon. crit rate on gear is universal, crit dmg on weapons/gear is universal.

[Myrrh]

crit rate on weapons only effects that weapon. crit rate on gear is universal, crit dmg on weapons/gear is universal.

Now, if only more Rngs knew and understood this. Would make for a lot less crappy RNGs out there.

[Mirabelle]

Now, if only more Rngs knew and understood this. Would make for a lot less crappy RNGs out there.

I have yet to see a RNG with Jupiter's staff so there can't be too many out there. There's hardly any RNG's out there at all these days.
If you are going to carp on RNG's for something, why not use the old standby, "Quit using cheap ammo!". You're more likely to see a RNG using Demon arrows than a RNG usng Jupiters staff.

[Myrrh]

I have yet to see a RNG with Jupiter's staff so there can't be too many out there. There's hardly any RNG's out there at all these days.
If you are going to carp on RNG's for something, why not use the old standby, "Quit using cheap ammo!". You're more likely to see a RNG using Demon arrows than a RNG usng Jupiters staff.

On Quetz and on Carbuncle I've seen numerous people use Jupiters Staff and they tell me I'm wrong when I try explain to them that the Crit incrase Crit only applies to the main weapon. Some people just don't want to learn.

Wasn't this discovered back in 2005? lol

And yet, here we are.

[Fyreus]

Now, if only more Rngs knew and understood this. Would make for a lot less crappy RNGs out there.

Wasn't this discovered back in 2005? lol