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  1. #11
    Player Xilk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimare View Post
    I took the liberty of doing some simple tests between Lucky Lulush and GorefangHobs. I tested 10 regular, non critical hit attacks on Tiny Mandragora outside Windurst. Afterword, I tested Foot Kick and Razor Fang. I didn't take my gear off, but I did make sure it never changed.

    Lucky Lulush's average attack damage was 497.4
    GorefangHobs average attack damage was 499.7

    Not much of a difference considering I only tested and averaged 10 attacks.

    10 Foot Kicks averaged 919.8 damage
    4 Razor Fangs averaged 1521.25 damage (I stopped at 4 because it was pretty obvious who won.)

    This is actually backward from what I expected to see. I could have sworn Lucky Lulush was doing more damage with foot kick in an Abyssea-Altepa party fighting Dolls. I wonder if it had something to do with damage types.
    Thats decent, except you are capping pdif. All you are seing in the normal melee hits is a slight difference inc strength between the jugs that could be due to the difference in the pet, or the difference in the level of the jug.

    Most War jugs do not have a huge difference in str if they are the same level. They are all around 117 at level 90. So going up a bit to the 120~128 range for level 95 is completely expected.

    However, I beleive Hobs has a significantly higher attack. You will see this by fighting the same mobs where pdif is NOT capped. I noticed before that Shasra has higher attack than lulush at level 90. You will not get normal melee hits as high on lulush as you do on Shasra. Hobs seems even stronger, but I don't have enough data to be conclusive. Fighting something w/ known def and getting min/max for lulush and hobs would be very good.

    Outside of abyssea is a totally different matter, and Tiger would probably win.
    Inside, I cannot possibly see a pet without a crit WS beating one that does. Especially since all the p calculations are most likely capped inside.
    That's like saying Sidewinders would beat Jishnu's.
    this is a very good point. Foot kick crits. I'm pretty sure whirl does also. You will get better hits from these tp moves than from hobs when using RR and/or sanguine Scythe. Then it becomes a comparison of melee hits to ready move rates(which will be the same for both hobs and lulush, cuz charges will limit the frequency of ready moves.)

    So you might be able to get better damage using lulush w/ Sanguine Scythe, Razed Ruins, and Voratious violet. however, you are lacking apocalypse for triple attack.. and its hard to say what tp gain will be... basically, I would use lulush w/ the above atma if I were doing NM's where my pet was not tanking and I had long waits in between. or if I was running in for WS then running out.
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  2. #12
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Am I doing something wrong, when I use the full-name it doesn't equip the item just says I have no jug equipped?
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    Player Calamity's Avatar
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    You doing the full full name? IE "Jug of burning carrion broth". The "jug of" part is required.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamity View Post
    You doing the full full name? IE "Jug of burning carrion broth". The "jug of" part is required.
    That'd be why, Thanks!
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