Torcleaver numbers.

[Rezeak]

they are unrivaled for single hit weaponskills because fTP is the base damage of your weaponskill
for multi hit 4~ for the most part there are better pieces.

Hmmm... it basically adds the same amount of DMG when in reguard of multihit.

It adds 0.1ftp to the first hit.
So it adds 0.1 X Mod X pdif(cratio or w/e ya use for atkvdef)
Makes no odds if the weapon does more hits.

For example guillotine vs torcleaver increase
Torcleaver is easy 0.1+4.75 = 4.85 a 2.1% increase in DMG
For guillotine is 1 hit at 0.85 then 3 at 1.0 so overall it's (0.85+1.0+1.0+1.0) X Mod X pdif
so u can consider the ftp of Guillotine as 3.85 and +0.1 to that is a 2.5% increase

And yes there Da and the acc bonus to consider but just saying it's a single hit as your reason isn't really justified.

Imo it comes alot more to do with the mod and base dmg of the the weapon.

For example to add 2% to Torcleaver with 110 DMG and 100 vit overall u'd need
110 + 0.6(100) = 170*1.02 = 173 base DMG
3/0.6 = 5 VIT

Which prolly mean Apathy collar (9VIT) will beat the gorget unless i missed something and alot of numbers were estimates either way w/e not that fussed

And Ganesha's Mala prolly is the best overall since it has 4 VIT and 2% Quad attack
2% quad attack = 2% chance to add 3.00 ftp to a weapon (basically)
2% * 3.00 = 0.06 (so just under what gorget adds but the 4 VIT prolly makes up for it)

[Jar]

Hmmm... it basically adds the same amount of DMG when in reguard of multihit.

It adds 0.1ftp to the first hit.
So it adds 0.1 X Mod X pdif(cratio or w/e ya use for atkvdef)
Makes no odds if the weapon does more hits.

For example guillotine vs torcleaver increase
Torcleaver is easy 0.1+4.75 = 4.85 a 2.1% increase in DMG
For guillotine is 1 hit at 0.85 then 3 at 1.0 so overall it's (0.85+1.0+1.0+1.0) X Mod X pdif
so u can consider the ftp of Guillotine as 3.85 and +0.1 to that is a 2.5% increase

And yes there Da and the acc bonus to consider but just saying it's a single hit as your reason isn't really justified.

Imo it comes alot more to do with the mod and base dmg of the the weapon.

For example to add 2% to Torcleaver with 110 DMG and 100 vit overall u'd need
110 + 0.6(100) = 170*1.02 = 173 base DMG
3/0.6 = 5 VIT

Which prolly mean Apathy collar (9VIT) will beat the gorget unless i missed something and alot of numbers were estimates either way w/e not that fussed

And Ganesha's Mala prolly is the best overall since it has 4 VIT and 2% Quad attack
2% quad attack = 2% chance to add 3.00 ftp to a weapon (basically)
2% * 3.00 = 0.06 (so just under what gorget adds but the 4 VIT prolly makes up for it)

that was more to name that for most multi hits there is a known piece (like bale choker for guil) that is better

[Fyreus]

I dunno why i was putting fTP inside the middle of the formula... that's what messed me up there. Dunno how i wrote it down wrong twice lol. The other problem that i had was looking at the vit loss with some neck/belt swaps since i couldn't exactly tell how close/over fSTR i was compared to avarage mobs and vs the stronger types of mobs around.

[vedder]

k been awhile since posted back here but dundundundun 90 caladbolg finally!

looking to perfect gear for ws builds (all the below are assuming LR up an inside abyssea for criticism sake as i know i could use tweaking in there); averaging about 2.3-2.6k with rcb an Lr up

cala90/pole/xx/bombcore
twilight/snow/bale/brutal
ares/heafoc/spiral/raja
athel/snow/bale+2/bale+2

any an all suggestions/critic'ing etc will be happily appreciated an thx for any responses
edited in: avg attack with this is probably around 1150 i think (rr/apoc/a&o atma)