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    AV Developers Strategy

    Since groups have been PD-zerging Absolute Virtue for a while now with no nerf on this, have the developers released any more secrets of how it was intended to be beaten at 75 since the video release? i.e how they dealt with meteor spam, how the same players used multiple 2hrs, the time they killed it in, why earth staff pld etc
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    seriously?

    this was all figured out a loooooong time ago
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    I'm asking if SE had released any official notes that were not obvious from the video after its release. You cant exactly figure out how long they fought for etc. Also not talking about player findings just there own written method as they fought.
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    SE hasn't released anything. Players have figured out most of the secrets. They're just no simple feat to pull off. With the level cap rise AV was left unchanged. Many games have bosses that are impossible or almost impossible and then become more winnable after a content update.
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    It'd be nice if SE came out and in detail explained how they expected lvl75 AV to be defeated. All the smoke and mirrors over the years amounted to nothing but an enormous waste of time.
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    We know how they expected it to be defeated. It was just too difficult for the average joe to pull off.

    Even if you disable him in all the various ways, when he puts his bracelets on, he becomes extremely dangerous. The bracelets phase is what ended things for most groups who made serious attempts on it.
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    And how was that?
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    It would be nice if SE did release their notes so we can see how they did their full fight compared to how we have planned our own strategies on fan forums. Since its only really being zerged at the moment they might aswell.
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    Using 2-hours within a few seconds of him using them locks those 2-hours. From what I stand, these 2-hours are in certain groups. From our wiki:

    • Beginning at bracelets mode, AV will use the following two-hour combos:
    • Call Wyvern → Familiar → Astral Flow
    • Invincible → Benediction → Mijin Gakure
    • Meikyo Shisui → Eagle Eye Shot x 3
    • Chainspell → Soul Voice
    My understanding is if you lock all the 2-hours in a given group, you will lock that combo in bracelets mode (I could be wrong here, the information available to me isn't completely clear on this).

    Basically, with good strategy, strong groups can make it to bracelets mode (the last 1/3). But without locking him down, the combos and his very high damage make it extremely difficult to stay alive.

    As you know of course, no one really cares about any of this anymore. PD was very likely intended specifically to put stuff like this to rest.
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    The 2hour lock strategy was not 100% if it even worked at all and the main problem with AV was Meteor which spelled game over.

    How did they intend for individuals to deal with Meteor? Even if you managed to get AV down to bracelets mode (where the real battle began), it was very likely you'd run into a bout with Meteor.

    All this precision 2houring - where exactly were the hints? How exactly would one deduce without SEs help that you need to match 2hours to cause a reaction in Absolute Virtue?

    Why was the AV "video" so poorly shot? There is a reason that people mock the "zooming into a chatlog" portion afterall.
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