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    Player Dirtyfinger's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    Anyone who recommends 0/5 Overwhelm should be immediately ignored.

    I currently have 5/5 Store TP, Meditate, Overwhelm, and 4/5 Ikishoten, 1/5 Blade Bash.

    I use a five-hit build for my Masamune, and 4 Ikishoten merits are required to shave a hit off of the build with a Hassanshin proc. If I used a 6-hit build, I might drop a few Store TP merits for Zanshin rate merits. Then again I might not. It's pretty hard to say which is better at this point.

    Before the SAM adjustments, I had 4/5 Blade Bash, 1/5 Shikikoyo, and no Ikishoten merits.
    100% this.
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  3. #12
    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    Anyone who recommends 0/5 Overwhelm should be immediately ignored.
    I have 0/5 overwhelm. But I'm sure you can figure why if you read when I have merited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatts View Post
    Well well well, aren't we the little Faux news reporter. Misquotation is bad juju. Clearly what "Tips" I recommended was Store TP and Overwhelm. After that, I just simply showed what I put in and hell, it works fine for me.

    Having Meditate down by 30 seconds is nice, but it wasn't for me. I get it, 30 seconds can turn the tide but w/ Iki(tab) merits I felt it was a better investment because its always active. I love always active stuff: Rapid shot, Subtle Blow, DA, Enchainment, etc.
    Anyways, rambling.
    Point is, I use Zanshin merits for the off chance I do miss (SAM tends to be more blind than a <insert current pop reference here>) and I get that ~50% chance of attacking again, plus with the introduction of Hassanshin, having more Zanshin coupled with DA (either through gear or /war) means that you'll be attacking twice a lot.
    That's my story and i'm sticking to it.
    zanshin rate merit is very low for hassanshin (5/5 merit is 1.25%)
    for merit i went 4/5 overwhelm/ikishoten 1/5 BB/shiki (5th overwhelm is only2%, imo this lost is <the occasional use of the 2ja)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    zanshin rate merit is very low for hassanshin (5/5 merit is 1.25%)
    for merit i went 4/5 overwhelm/ikishoten 1/5 BB/shiki (5th overwhelm is only2%, imo this lost is <the occasional use of the 2ja)
    5/5 Zanshin merits = 5% more ZAR. but yea, i suggest you put in that 5th one to overwhelm. the last one is 2% but it all adds up. 1 str is just 1 str until its added with 80 other "1 str"s
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    Player Dirtyfinger's Avatar
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    5/5 Zanshin may mean 5% more Zanshin, but it doesn't mean 5% for Hassanshin.
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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkBass View Post
    5/5 Zanshin merits = 5% more ZAR. but yea, i suggest you put in that 5th one to overwhelm. the last one is 2% but it all adds up. 1 str is just 1 str until its added with 80 other "1 str"s
    zanshin hasso rate have been parsed to be about 1/4 of your zanshin base rate (see ryozen post in the zanshin thread)
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  8. #17
    Player Raka's Avatar
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    With use of Masamune my current merits are as follows:

    Group 1:

    Store TP 5/5
    Meditate recast 5/5

    Group 2:

    Overwhelm 5/5
    Ikishoten 5/5

    I am proud to say I dislike sharing my TP with other people in exchange for even quicker TP gain upon Zanshin proc.
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    Last edited by Raka; 08-13-2011 at 10:01 PM.

  9. #18
    Player DarkBass's Avatar
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    I am proud to say I dislike sharing my TP with other people in exchange for even quicker TP gain upon Zanshin proc.
    I share your sentiment. And also why i cleaned out my meditate merits and put them in zanshin attack rate. with zanshin activating on hasso hits and all the enhances zanshin gear that all the sams were complaining about pre update, it felt like a waste of merits to leave them in meditate recast.
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    Player Dirtyfinger's Avatar
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    I spose you don't WS at 100tp? (or always try to).
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    1-2% Hassanshin doesn't really seem worth adding another 30 seconds to my Meditate recast.
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