Creed Cuirass +2 (Body, head) vs. Twilight Mail set

[Kwate]

Hey guys, I'm new to PLD, have all +2 gear except for the body (which is +1 atm),I'm really at a crossroads deciding between the 2. I'm very aware of the stats and was considering using twilight as a mac piece only for my Almace (career BLU), cures, chivalry, etc. But the extra refresh, regen, auto-RR, stat mods, etc. really has me thinking it could be more, any thoughts or suggestions?

[Arcon]

Depends what you wanna use it for. For damage mitigation, use the Creed pieces, body is nice to TP in as well. Can use the head too if you're blood tanking, depending on your setup. For CdC use the Twilight set, same as for idling, because it gives Refresh and looks pimpin'. Also nice for a death macro.

[Rorrick]

Armet is next to worthless. Any haste head is better for TP. Cuirass is better than Twilight for TP.

Both Twilight pieces are macro only. The only time they should be visible is when you're disengaged and running around (or low MP while engaged for the Mail), or when you're dead and in the process of reraising thanks to the set bonus.

[Kwate]

Cool that's what I was looking for, I wasn't sure if the +25 VIT was helpful on damage mitigation or losing the +10 emnity from Creed Cuirass was worth losing.

[Arcon]

VIT is surprisingly useless for damage mitigation (as is Defense), the mitigated damage from Enmity on the Creed Cuirass +2 would be a lot more valuable than both Twilight pieces combined. An exception would be Rampart, which mitigates damage based on the VIT at the time you use it, which means they're a good macro piece for Rampart too (if you don't have Hero's Galea and Koenig/Kaiser Cuirass).

[Anucris]

VIT is surprisingly useless for damage mitigation (as is Defense), the mitigated damage from Enmity on the Creed Cuirass +2 would be a lot more valuable than both Twilight pieces combined. An exception would be Rampart, which mitigates damage based on the VIT at the time you use it, which means they're a good macro piece for Rampart too (if you don't have Hero's Galea and Koenig/Kaiser Cuirass).

Umm I don't totally agree. Defense is useless ur right but when I swapped from a +40 def atma to a +50 vit atma mandys that hit me for ~3-7 DMg hit me for 0 bout 95% of the time. Only doing DMg on crits

[Martel]

I'm very aware of the stats and was considering using twilight as a mac piece only for my Almace (career BLU), cures, chivalry, etc.

I'm a little confused by this statement. BLU can't wear Twilight mail/Helm.

Edit: OH, I think maybe I get this now. By "mac piece" you meant Macro? I interpreted it as Magic acc. Which reinforced the BLU oddity. I now assume you were just explaining that you have Almace while new to PLD because of BLU.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Zagen]

Umm I don't totally agree. Defense is useless ur right but when I swapped from a +40 def atma to a +50 vit atma mandys that hit me for ~3-7 DMg hit me for 0 bout 95% of the time. Only doing DMg on crits

VIT is next to worthless on anything of value... EXP mobs are horrible for testing heck on EXP mobs the difference between Counterstance DEF and normal DEF can be noticed because the mob's attack is low enough for it to make a difference.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Didn't SE supposedly fix vit, or make it do more than it used to? Of course, they probably just made it semi relevant compared to completely useless but still.

[Greatguardian]

They made it affect Critical Hit Damage%, if I recall correctly. Nothing too spectacular or game breaking, really. It's like the AGI/Subtle Blow update. Nice, but not really a big enough deal for people to care and gear for it.