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    Player Clou777's Avatar
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    STILL have no idea what the enmity douse enhancement does!

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    Player Amador's Avatar
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    Greater Hate shed? Test with a Scholar's Libra ability.

    If it's 0% with gloves, and if it's 10% without, then the answer would be obvious.

    Since it's an instance type move, it's more than likely additional hate shed.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amador View Post
    Greater Hate shed? Test with a Scholar's Libra ability.

    If it's 0% with gloves, and if it's 10% without, then the answer would be obvious.

    Since it's an instance type move, it's more than likely additional hate shed.

    Its already been tested I believe. Enmity douse already sheds all of your CE and VE so there's nothing else for the gloves to do.

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Enmity_Douse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Player Shadotter's Avatar
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    maybe it prevents enmity gain for an amount of time as well?
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadotter View Post
    maybe it prevents enmity gain for an amount of time as well?
    Click the link I posted then read the discussion page

    They may effect enmity gain after Douse?
    Player 1 Pulls with Threnody (300 CE)
    Player 2 casts 3x Threnody (300 CE)
    Player 1 uses Enmity Douse (1 CE)
    Player 1 uses 3x Threnody as fast as I could following Enmity Douse (300 CE) <-- Player 1 gets hate back after all three and the rabbit turns towards him briefly even after the first Threnody.

    So it's definitely not -Enmity. It could be increased enmity lost when taking damage or increased VE decay rate, but that'd be a silly effect considering the JA sets your VE to 0. Also, based on the way the monster was looked at me every time I cast Threnody, for increasing amounts of time, I'd say that it's probably not increased VE decay rate. --Byrthnoth 09:06, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
    This, along with "Enhances addendum white/black" on SCH af3 body are the two biggest enmity related effects still unknown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    It'd be cool if it took you off the hate list completely like Hide.
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    Player Lancil's Avatar
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    A little while ago I was fighting Ironclad smiter. He had switched damage forms and received doubled from my nuke as well as the other blm that had the +2. He used enmity douse first and then me shortly after and yet the NM still came after me despite the fact we had mutliple DDs on it from before our nukes.

    I would like to point out that I was not nuking nearly as much as the other blm so he was much higher on the hate list than I was.
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancil View Post
    A little while ago I was fighting Ironclad smiter. He had switched damage forms and received doubled from my nuke as well as the other blm that had the +2. He used enmity douse first and then me shortly after and yet the NM still came after me despite the fact we had mutliple DDs on it from before our nukes.

    I would like to point out that I was not nuking nearly as much as the other blm so he was much higher on the hate list than I was.
    So possibly prevents enmity accumulation for a period after using douse?
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    Player Lancil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    So possibly prevents enmity accumulation for a period after using douse?
    If I had to guess, it just removes more enmity.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancil View Post
    If I had to guess, it just removes more enmity.
    More than all? Negative enmity? Makes the mob run away screaming from you?
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