WARNING - New Players or Players thinking of coming back - Consider this first.

[Tunechi]

Well I can't transfer my character but I will gladly make a new one since its only $1 extra a month, and I like having a few characters anyways. I think if they lowered the cost a bit since its been out for a while then many more people would join up. I will go ahead and make a new one and we can start from there if that's okay.

Fine with me, I just have items I really do not want to lose. my IGN is the same as my name on here.

[ZelkeDarkwings]

Got it. Just so you know I am familiar with some aspects of the game but I am sure that there is a lot I don't know. I am sending a PO friend invite so you will know its me lol. I will let you know my character's name as soon as I make him.

Also it wouldn't let me edit the text lol.

[Thuggy]

Well as an "older" player I actually find it a little offensive how you group all servers and all players together. Not everyone is clique-ish or elitist. There are actually some of us who help others and go above and beyond. As a matter of fact I can tell you today that I PERSONALLY went and escorted someone from Korroloka Tunnel to the Eastern Altepa Telepoint crystal and then to the exp party. I even offered to help the same person fight their avatar fights for their summoner since all they had were elementals and Carbuncle. Was this anyone I met before? Did I have a hidden agenda? no. It was something I felt as a player of the game I should do to help another person who needed assistance. So before you group all of us old players together all willy nilly please think about what you are saying. Yes the dynamics of the game have changed where it is a rarity to find a traditional exp party and some people are carelessly spam leveling jobs is abyssea, is it something EVERYONE is doing, no, it isn't remember it only takes ONE person to make it NOT everyone.

Thanks ^^

[Tunechi]

Well as an "older" player I actually find it a little offensive how you group all servers and all players together. Not everyone is clique-ish or elitist. There are actually some of us who help others and go above and beyond. As a matter of fact I can tell you today that I PERSONALLY went and escorted someone from Korroloka Tunnel to the Eastern Altepa Telepoint crystal and then to the exp party. I even offered to help the same person fight their avatar fights for their summoner since all they had were elementals and Carbuncle. Was this anyone I met before? Did I have a hidden agenda? no. It was something I felt as a player of the game I should do to help another person who needed assistance. So before you group all of us old players together all willy nilly please think about what you are saying. Yes the dynamics of the game have changed where it is a rarity to find a traditional exp party and some people are carelessly spam leveling jobs is abyssea, is it something EVERYONE is doing, no, it isn't remember it only takes ONE person to make it NOT everyone.

Thanks ^^

Well, if your not in the group then there is no need to take offense this isn't targeted at anyone. It's a generalization of my opinion on the subject is all. I know not everyone is an elitist and what-not. This is for new players to be mentally ready if they do decide to play this game and understand that things might not go as planned or as you might look up on the internet. You have to be mentally prepared to NOT be able to do 'this' or 'that' on the exact level available sometimes and play in circles until you can solo or get help depending the situation. So please don't take offense but I feel if new players can understand that more people would stay instead of giving up. It's like stepping into a scolding shower thinking it was warm, your going to hop right out, unless your prepared ahead of time and take precautions. So please don't think I'm bashing anyone in particular it's just how the game revolves at the moment.

Also the last time I played this was when CoP was released so this is a giant learning experience for myself personally.

[Zaknafein]

Personally I pick a random noob every few months, and put a lot of effort into cultivating them. Been doing it for years. My current project I found from a shout I made asking if anyone wanted one of w/e it was I was crafting for skill ups at the time.. LC straps iirc. He was level 12 at the time with no subjob. Over the past two months I've invested over a mil in gil, and 30-40 hours of my time. With that help, and his desire to learn he's off to a successful start in his ffxi career. 1 level 90 job. A solid understanding of macro's, and how his job functions.

While everyone you meet in the game will not be that helpfull there are those of us out there. Also social LS who accept new players. Don't give up hope just cause you have some bad experiences. For some of us old burnt out players grooming a newbie is one of the most rewarding activities in the entire game.

[Ayke]

Well maybe things have been hard for yourself and some others, but from what I've experienced It's not so bad, I've been playing for less then 2 months now on my new account (Used to play about 5 years ago). And its a lot easier now to get parties then what it used to be, book burns are a very fast way to leveling up, and if you need help with missions, unlocking jobs etc, you probably just need to find the right people/linkshell to get things done, add other new players to your friends list and get things done together. And making gil shouldn't too much of a big problem, there are lots of way to get a good income starting. And check your server forums, I don't know about the Odin server but there are a few linkshells and people offering help on the Asura server. I joined a LS i found on the Asura forums and I don't think I could of found better and more helpful server with a decent amout of players on at all times of the day

[Runespider]

This thread is just pure ignorance. (understandably I guess since Square made the game kinda unfriendly and stuff like GoV alliances are still kinda unknown about by many)

Leveling process? Do Fields of valor till you get to 15 then head to gusgen mines and team up with others doing grounds of valor in alliances. Carry on till you get to around 40-45 then goto crawlers nest where you can get to 75+ Takes less than a week, really fast and easy xp with lots of other players. No need to solo.

Help with stuff? Ask! If you need help with certain things head to the zones and shout or send some tells, people are generally busy doing stuff but if you ask nicely you will usually find someone to help. For things that take longer, well you need to try make some friends.

I hate to break it to you but almost all MMO's are like this these days, FFXI still has one of the better communities out there.

[Karbuncle]

This thread is just pure ignorance.

Leveling process? Do Fields of valor till you get to 15 then head to gusgen mines and team up with others doing grounds of valor in alliances. Carry on till you get to around 40-45 then goto crawlers nest where you can get to 75+ Takes less than a week, really fast and easy xp with lots of other players. No need to solo.

Help with stuff? Ask! If you need help with certain things head to the zones and shout or send some tells, people are generally busy doing stuff but if you ask nicely you will usually find someone to help. For things that take longer, well you need to try make some friends.

I hate to break it to you but almost all MMO's are like this these days, FFXI still has one of the better communities out there.

Actually agree with Rune here.

Frankly, I wonder if people complaining actually remember days before Level Sync? Where you had to find 5 other people in your exact level range with less than 1 level variance in order to make a decent party, and if someone leveled up your Exp tanked and you had to find a rep? This wasn't fun, at all. it sucked and i don't fathom why people view this kind of era ending as a negative thing.

You can still party with people, You can still play with others, you can still interact as much as you could in the past (hint: Linkshells). Hell people are even back in Jeuno now so you dont need to get to Whitegate like it was a few years ago when people jumped from LJ to whitegate.

The game is a lot more solo friendly, but the Party aspects are still there if you know where to look, and to mirror what Rune said, Asking nicely goes a long way to getting help. I help just about anyone i can if I'm not busy, Always answer questions/etc.

[Glamdring]

not sure where the issue is, I've helpped new players my whole term on FFXI (to my own detriment actually, alot of stuff I needed to do has been put on hold to help others). Ask nicely, you'll get help with leveling. If you are decent, you'll get invited to a decent social shell and get to tag along on lots of stuff. But be realistic, you aren't going to get through CoP in a week as an example. annoying content is going to be ignored a fair amount of the time, and you'll just have to go when someone else chooses to, or put it together yourself. CoP took me YEARS, why would you expect it to be different for a new player? I'm just using CoP as an example, btw, it could just as easily be ToAU, or WoTG, or just about anything else.

All that being said, if you are NOT nice, get demanding, whine, whatever, you stand a good chance of getting booted from an LS and prolly make my /blist. What's more, players DO get a reputation, and you do NOT want to end up on the negative side of that, it kills chances of getting help. Nobody likes an ass, and the nice thing about a MMORPG (unlike life) is that we CAN deny an ass the opportunity to get ahead.

[Runespider]

All that being said, if you are NOT nice, get demanding, whine, whatever

In my experience this is what a lot of new players do and when they get rejected they say how bad FFXI is and how unfriendly the community is. FFXI players make up a community, treat people as you would treat people irl and be nice. Nobody has to help you and you don't deserve help just cause you are paying the monthly sub. If someone is busy and can't help you when you ask don't get annoyed just stick with it and keep asking other people, and as I said keep your tone nice, remember you are asking people to help you.

I've played this game for nearly 7 years now and I've never had serious issues getting help with anything, players are generally really nice but the way you talk to people is very important. If you're an ass people will treat you like one.

Oh and if you want help, read up on what you need help with before you ask. Don't ask people for help and expect them to know all about whatever you want help with.

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