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  1. #331
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar71 View Post
    Wondering if helix spells are going to become sub-able
    They wont be done to learn later, so one or two may be sub-able. I see the only reason for this so they can add tier-2 helix's later down the line.
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    Also what use is recast of Modus Veritas being "adjusted" if the ability still never lands on anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    They wont be done to learn later, so one or two may be sub-able. I see the only reason for this so they can add tier-2 helix's later down the line.
    It's probably to trigger on voidwatch with /sch at least on the yellow portion
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  4. #334
    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogenta View Post
    It's probably to trigger on voidwatch with /sch at least on the yellow portion
    Yeah, but Helix's are unique to SCH if they didn't add tier II then they've removed another unique thing to SCH. They might as well just remove the job if they continued that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    6. Make adjustments to Tabula Rasa
    Isn't Tabula Rasa already "adjusted" with the new stuff currently on the test server and scheduled for late september?
    Or is this exactely what you mean?
    Hope those "adjustements" don't mean you're gonna nerf how Tabula Rasa works on the test server, because I'm personally loving it a lot
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  6. #336
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    Maybe the development team can start by explaining exactly what the Empyrean body enhancments are for Scholar. Seems strange that they're leaving it so open right now. "something to do with enmity" is vague at best.

    I remember in the .dats that there were 4 spell animations added that people though might be tier II storm or helix spells, I forget which now. Maybe they're going to add dual element ones.
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    The best SCH adjustment to Modus Veritas they can do it make it land on anything worthwhile, especially since it's a Voidwatch proc. Or just remove it as a Voidwatch proc all together, the whole concept of making a 10min JA that will most likely miss as a proc in a 30min fight is pretty ridiculous.
    Still, these adjustments are great. I don't think Helix spells will be subbable, I see it as they'll just make all 8 of them learnable at the same level. The adjustment to Klimaform is gonna break the AF3 Feet even further.
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    I think the DEV team should seriously consider a cure type helix spell.
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    Unlike storm spells, Helix spells don't really have to be sub useable. Ancient Magic is not sub usable, it is purely a Black Mage thing.

    There is a big difference, since support magic tends to be subbed.

    Getting tier 2 Helix spells does not mean Scholar has to share Helix spells, but getting tier 2 Storm spells would probably be overpowered unless every tier 1 Storm spell was sub usable.

    Another thing that makes sense to request is Klimaform 2 or a way for SCH main to boost it, since it is now sub usable. Tier 2 weather spells should do this ideally though. Saying that other jobs shouldn't get this is like expecting White Mage to have Regen IV removed when Scholar gets it however.
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    What would a klimaform 2 do though? Same thing just last longer? Double the amount of +macc?
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