Nyzul Isle ~ Floors -1 ~ -100. What happened?

[Rambus]

The Future of Nyzul

Even though the version update just took place, the development team is hard at work on planning content adjustments for the future. I managed to check out their plans for Nyzul and though I couldn’t get any specifics since they are still in the planning phases, they did mention some ideas about their direction:

• New addition for high level characters
Please note that this is not an adjustment to existing content! We are planning to add a whole new Nyzul targeted towards high levels. We will be sure to prepare the appropriate rewards and difficult monsters.

• Addition of new elements following the current system
We’re planning to add new elements to stimulate the experience of the existing Nyzul assault.

We will be continuing to look into this, so please give your feedback and we will let you know more specifics as the development team progresses!

Interesting, I look forward to it. like others said there really needs to be a fix to Alexandrites.

[xbobx]

I enjoyed nyzul, I just hope the new 99 ws are obtained the same way the nyzul ones. Nyzul teir 2 ws.

[Quetzacoatl]

Please give us an alternative source of Alexandrite in the form of Nyzul.

Even though I'm not aiming for a mythic, I would like to see this happen as well. As it is now, the economy for Alexandrite is very low, so adding Alexandrite to these new Nyzul Isle missions would help extremely to stimulate distribution for it, in my opinion (as well as everyone else's).

[Atomic_Skull]

Ideally the main rewards that are featured for it should be available via a points system like Assault.

But it won't be because a random reward schedule is the most effective form of operant conditioning. If you think low rate random drops are a huge part of MMOs because MMO developers are stupid or just sadistic you are mistaken. Random drops are used because they they are the most effective way to addict players to your game.

Although written as a comedy article everything in the article linked below is completely true.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18461...-addicted.html

[Atomic_Skull]

NO MORE *** LAMPS IN THE NEW ONE PLEASE.

The only thing easier than lamps is a free floor.

* beating a boss seemed to only have roughly a 50% chance of dropping an armor piece. I don't know what you guys do to balance drop rates, but it was pretty disheartening to have a group cleverly solve all of nyzul's challenges and beat the boss in time and get nothing. Either a guaranteed drop of something or having all armor drop independently so sometimes you get nothing but other times you might get 2 or 3 if you're lucky would be okay. But I don't know what you have planned for new gear rewards so it's hard to give feedback on that

The only way that would work would be to revert to the old system of clearing the disk when you beat the boss. Being able to spam the boss every day with guaranteed armor drops would mean you'd be done with it in a week.

[saevel]

The only thing easier than lamps is a free floor.



The only way that would work would be to revert to the old system of clearing the disk when you beat the boss. Being able to spam the boss every day with guaranteed armor drops would mean you'd be done with it in a week.

Yes and no.

Clearly the reward system shouldn't be guaranteed, but also it shouldn't be VWNM stingy. There NEEDS to be a consistent reward given, otherwise it's just a skinners box which is disgusting.

[Gwynplaine]

Random drops are used because they they are the most effective way to addict players to your game.

But in fact they aren't because unlike mice in a Skinner box, humans are capable of foresight and judgement. Players who think its insulting and laughable to get rewarded by a random number generator will shun the content, criticize, suggest changes, or quit. Its worth considering what is in actuality more profitable in the long term.

[Retsujo]

And yet we've had tons of fun with casting lots since the game's released.

[Erecia]

The only way that would work would be to revert to the old system of clearing the disk when you beat the boss. Being able to spam the boss every day with guaranteed armor drops would mean you'd be done with it in a week.

Not necessarily. Salvage bosses ALWAYS dropped two 25 armor pieces. Einherjar's Odin always dropped two body abjurations. Not knowing anything about new Nyzul, we don't know if armor will drop in completed form from new bosses or not. Heck, it might go all magian trials on us, upgrading pieces from old nyzul with seals dropped from new bosses. I dunno. I'm much more a fan of slow and steady progress than random luck and bring a THF.

[Atomic_Skull]

Yes and no.

Clearly the reward system shouldn't be guaranteed, but also it shouldn't be VWNM stingy. There NEEDS to be a consistent reward given, otherwise it's just a skinners box which is disgusting.

But the skinner box makes the most sense from a business perspective. A consistent reward rather that a random one is actually counter productive to SE's profits.