Why more haste?

[paito]

Hello everyone,

I want to discus this matter about Monk's Haste!
Why well there now on 3 emperial gears of monk with haste + Black belt

Tantra hose +2 = 7%
Tantra gloves +2 = 3%
Tantra crown +2 = 7%
+
Black belt = 12%
=
28% Haste total and we know that haste caps at 25%
Why oh why that hands have haste+ on it beats me?
is it the fact that ppl with Brown belt?
but that is now way easier now then it use to be
They should put att+ or acc+ on that gear instead that 3% haste!

If you look it that way Black belt or those hands are a kinda waste

[Dfoley]

Simply put:
1) Not everyone has a BB
2) BB is not 'easy' to get
3) There are actually better belt options now (twilight) for DD

While you can 1 group most of the NM for BB the long camps arent worth the trouble. And the nm99 versions aren't much better, having spent 3 orbs and still not getting my wyrm beard.

I like the haste on the gloves, but I disagree that they should replace it with acc or atk. I would much rather have double attack. However the haste is needed to reach the cap if you use twilight belt which is far superior to BB if you can cap haste.

[Stormy]

In what way is Twilight Belt a better (let alone far superior) option for Monks?

[kaht]

Simply put:
1) Not everyone has a BB
2) BB is not 'easy' to get
3) There are actually better belt options now (twilight) for DD

4) Wear relic gloves if you want attack gloves. You don't HAVE to wear all emp armor.

[Greatguardian]

I'd imagine this is simply to give less hardcore players more options. If you change all of those AF3+2 to AF3+1 you end up back at 25% Haste. Keep the +2 but change the black belt to a brown belt and you're back at 24%. Having full AF3+2 and a Black belt is ideal, but it is simply no longer required for more casual players to hit the haste cap.

Black Belt also destroys Twilight Belt, and the H2H skill +7 on the AF3+2 hands brings any 8/8 merit MNK up a damage tier which makes them your best option in the hands slot anyways.

[paito]

Well that is darn great because the poeple that worked for it to gain that item is just a waste of time
for them.

What I think what they can make it up for it.
Is for the Black belt are trails like the armors

[Mirage]

More haste pieces just means you get more freedom when it comes to which pieces to swap out for things that give you bigger boosts to other stats.

[Dfoley]

In what way is Twilight Belt a better (let alone far superior) option for Monks?

Well if you cap haste with either belt:
You are looking at 2% dbl atk vs 7 str. If you read my post I was talking about from a DD stand point, and from a DD stand point, 2%dbl atk is far superior to 7 str.

The str is nice for WS, but there are better belts to ws in.

Now for tanking BB is far superior, but for DD it is not IF you can cap haste without it.

[Stormy]

You forgot to include the stats you lose from your feet slot, since you'll need haste shoes to cap with Twilight.

It's not really worth correcting the flawed comparison though, because by your own admission, BB is far superior. If you're DD'ing, you're tanking.

[Dfoley]

You forgot to include the stats you lose from your feet slot, since you'll need haste shoes to cap with Twilight.

It's not really worth correcting the flawed comparison though, because by your own admission, BB is far superior. If you're DD'ing, you're tanking.

Except thats not what I am talking about at all, and I dont appreciate you twisting my words to fit your point of view.

If all you care about is DD, then twilight is better. If you are tanking and DDing yes BB would be better, but that is not what I said. Think what you want but dont change my posts to say what you want them to.

DD alone Twilight > BB, tanking/dding, yes BB is better.

I am talking about 1 piece of gear not a whole suit, not what you might have to change here and there, a straight up comparison of A vs B.