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  1. #41
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    On my server even US were getting it done and that was 2005
    Again just because you know people who did something doesn't mean everyone did it. You have no idea how long some people got stuck on certain missions.

    Almost a third of all players have not gotten past "Ancient Flame Becokns" in CoP. Less than half of everyone has completed the final chapter:
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/6.html
    (Note that except for the first page which mentions them, level 1 characters e.g. mules are not included in this)
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-12-2011 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Honestly not much changed since the last vanadiel census. COR and PUP both suck. COR is a fail attempt at doing a BRD and PUP will always not be a MNK. MNK #1, PUP #20 and it's not because of verethragna or victory smite because both jobs have it.
    OMG could you sound more ignorant. Cor is a great support job but unfortunately(due to atmas) its now somewhat forgotten. As for pup... you have no clue how to properly play the job. You have good gear but you lack proper brain function to be able to use it to it's full potential(lol using Spiritreaver on JoL)
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    Markov sounds like... Jar... He gets you pumped up and just when you think he's gonna give you a valid argument, he blows his leg off while keeping a straight face on...
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    Player Koroma's Avatar
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    Toa jobs and bst have always been highly unpopular abyssea changed jobs around though alot, blu increased for procs, bst increased because all the ppl not good enough to lvl bst normaly abyessa gimped it and every's mule's mule's sister's cousin's dog has nin lvled to solo lesser nm's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Again just because you know people who did something doesn't mean everyone did it. You have no idea how long some people got stuck on certain missions.

    Almost a third of all players have not gotten past "Ancient Flame Becokns" in CoP. Less than half of everyone has completed the final chapter:
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/6.html
    (Note that except for the first page which mentions them, level 1 characters e.g. mules are not included in this)
    At least when you try to prove something is hard try to compare it to similar content.

    30% have RotZ completed, a missions series that can be done in one single day.
    50% have CoP completed (yes, more than rotz).
    30% have ToAU completed
    5% have Wotg completed

    CoP are the most completed missions, therefore they ARE the easiest missions. Even abyssea has 30% completion rate only.

    Just because you fail at doing cutscenes doesn't mean every one does.

    Before the nerf of cop this was the situation :

    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...09mission.html

    30% were on one of the last 2 RotZ missions
    25% were on the final CoP mission, this was in 2007 so 4 YEARS ago, the difficulty was intact to the one of the initial releases.

    Excerps from 2007 census :

    Next, we have some mission progression data from Chains of Promathia (released globally on September 16, 2004). The difficulty of these missions is widely known; however, the fact that 25% of players have reached the final chapter and the spoils it has to offer, shows a strong bond of friendship and teamwork among our community.
    Get friends and stop crying.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 07-13-2011 at 04:38 AM.

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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrminas View Post
    Markov sounds like... Jar... He gets you pumped up and just when you think he's gonna give you a valid argument, he blows his leg off while keeping a straight face on...
    ^

    trolls gonna troll
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    Well the real question is, why you guys still try to argue with a troll ? ^^ Just let it go, you just feed his desire for attention. Check the FFXIAH forum and you know what leets, troll, moron or w/e you wanna call him he is, ignore him and everything is fine ^^
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  8. #48
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    COP has a higher completion rate because you need to actually beat all of COP to get the main reward (rajas ring)

    RoTZ isnt as high of a completion rate because you get the main reward (suppa, etc) at Divine might and unless you want to do Apoc nigh, most people stopped there and didnt bother to finish ROTZ.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    At least when you try to prove something is hard try to compare it to similar content.
    It's not even about being hard. I'm simply pointing out that the claim that "95%" of people have done this or that is plain wrong.

    I don't give a rats arse how easy or hard each mission actually is. You simply cant assume that everyone has done something just because it's "easy."
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